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BREAKING: DOJ approves Sirius-XM merger

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XM and Sirius Merger
The United States Department of Justice today approved the merger between Sirius Satellite Radio Inc. and XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc., stating that the evidence does not establish that the combination of the two would "substantially reduce competition."

Official statement:
"After a careful and thorough review of the proposed transaction, the Division concluded that the evidence does not demonstrate that the proposed merger of XM and Sirius is likely to substantially lessen competition, and that the transaction therefore is not likely to harm consumers. The Division reached this conclusion because the evidence did not show that the merger would enable the parties to profitably increase prices to satellite radio customers for several reasons, including: a lack of competition between the parties in important segments even without the merger; the competitive alternative services available to consumers; technological change that is expected to make those alternatives increasingly attractive over time; and efficiencies likely to flow from the transaction that could benefit consumers.

"The Division's investigation indicated that the parties are not likely to compete with respect to many segments of the satellite radio business even in the absence of the merger. Because customers must acquire equipment that is specialized to the satellite radio service to which they subscribe, and which cannot receive the other provider's signal, there has never been significant competition for customers who have already subscribed to one or the other service. For potential new subscribers, past competition has resulted in XM and Sirius entering long-term, sole-source contracts that provide incentives to all of the major auto manufacturers to install their radios in new vehicles. The car manufacturer channel accounts for a large and growing share of all satellite radio sales; yet, as a result of these contracts, there is not likely to be significant further competition between the parties for satellite radio equipment and service sold through this channel for many years. In the retail channel, where the parties likely would continue to compete to attract new subscribers absent the merger, the Division found that the evidence did not support defining a market limited to the two satellite radio firms that would exclude various alternative sources for audio entertainment, and similarly did not establish that the combined firm could profitably sustain an increased price to satellite radio consumers. Substantial cost savings likely to flow from the transaction also undermined any inference of competitive harm. Finally, the likely evolution of technology in the future, including the expected introduction in the next several years of mobile broadband Internet devices, made it even more unlikely that the transaction would harm consumers in the longer term. Accordingly, the Division has closed its investigation of the proposed merger."
More after the jump...

Competitive Analysis

The DOJ's Antitrust Division reviewed millions of pages of documents, analyzed large amounts of data related to sales of satellite radios and subscriptions for satellite radio service, and interviewed scores of industry participants.

The DOJ's analysis looked at how both Sirius and XM compete with one another. While they've competed for new subscribers, the DOJ concluded that there has never been significant competition between them for customers who have already subscribed and purchased the requisite equipment.

As for existing subscribers, the DOJ found that subscribers rarely switch between XM and Sirius.

OEM Channel

Historically, XM and Sirius engaged in head-to-head competition for the right to distribute their products and services through each car company. As a result of this competitive process, XM and Sirius have provided car manufacturers with subsidies and other payments that indirectly reduce the equipment prices paid by car buyers to obtain a satellite radio.

The DOJ's Antitrust Division concluded that there was no evidence that competition between XM or Sirius beyond the terms of these contracts would affect customers' choices of which car to buy. As a result, there is not likely to be significant competition between XM and Sirius for satellite radio equipment and service sold through the car manufacturer channel for many years.

The Justice Department also recognized that satellite radio retail channel sales have dropped significantly since 2005, and the parties contended that the decline was accelerating. However, retail outlets still account for a large portion of the firms' sales, and the DOJ was unable to determine with any certainty that this channel would not continue to be important in the future.

Retail Channel

Sirius and XM contended that they compete with a variety of other sources of audio entertainment, including traditional AM/FM radio, HD Radio, MP3 players and audio offerings delivered through wireless telephones. 

The DOJ found that evidence developed in the investigation did not support defining a market limited to the two satellite radio firms, and similarly did not establish that the combined firm could profitably sustain an increased price to satellite radio consumers. XM and Sirius seek to attract subscribers in a wide variety of ways, including by offering commercial-free music, exclusive programming, niche music formats, out-of-market sporting events, and a variety of news and talk formats in a service that is accessible nationwide. The variety of these offerings reflects an effort to attract consumers with highly differentiated interests and tastes.

Thus, while the satellite radio offerings of XM and Sirius likely are the closest substitutes for some current or potential customers, the two offerings do not appear to be the closest substitutes for other current or potential customers.

For example, a potential customer considering purchasing XM service primarily to listen to Major League Baseball games or one considering purchasing Sirius service primarily to listen to Howard Stern may not view the other satellite radio service, which lacks the desired content, as a particularly close substitute. Similarly, many customers buying radios in the retail channel are acquiring an additional receiver to add to an existing XM or Sirius subscription for their car radio, and these customers likely would not respond to a price increase by choosing a radio linked to the other satellite radio provider. The evidence did not demonstrate that the number of current or potential customers that view XM and Sirius as the closest alternatives is large enough to make a price increase profitable. Importantly in this regard, the parties do not appear to have the ability to identify and price discriminate against those actual or potential customers that view XM and Sirius as the closest substitutes.

Efficiencies

To the extent there were some concern that the combined firm might be able profitably to increase prices in the mass-market retail channel, efficiencies flowing from the transaction likely would undermine any such concern.

The Justice Department's investigation confirmed that the parties are likely to realize significant variable and fixed cost savings through the merger. It was not possible to estimate the magnitude of the efficiencies with precision due to the lack of evidentiary support provided by XM and Sirius, and many of the efficiencies claimed by the parties were not credited or were discounted because they did not reflect improvements in economic welfare, could have been achieved without the proposed transaction, or were not likely to be realized within the next several years.

Nevertheless, the DOJ estimated the likely variable cost savings - those savings most likely to be passed on to consumers in the form of lower prices - to be substantial.

Effect of Technological Change

Any inference of a competitive concern was further limited by the fact that a number of technology platforms are under development that are likely to offer new or improved alternatives to satellite radio.

Most notable is the expected introduction within several years of next-generation wireless networks capable of streaming Internet radio to mobile devices.

While it is difficult to predict which of these alternatives will be successful and the precise timing of their availability as an attractive alternative, a significant number of consumers in the future are likely to consider one or more of these platforms as an attractive alternative to satellite radio.

The likely evolution of technology played an important role in the DOJ's assessment of competitive effects in the longer term because, for example, consumers are likely to have access to new alternatives, including mobile broadband Internet devices, by the time the current long-term contracts between the parties and car manufacturers expire.


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157 Comments

say whaaaaaaaaaaa?

About time!

First. How great. Let's hope Siri and XM stocks skyrocket.

It's about time!

Say goodbye to SatRadio as you know/love it.

You sure? After months of rumors and thinking word was on the way...I wouldn't believe you but CNN is reporting it as well.

YES! Its about damn time. Now lets, get Kevin Martin to make this happen.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Cool

about time.

Sirius is up 6.55% and XM is up 14.49%

WWWHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

the 12% premium SIRI had over the merger price is now gone, down to less than 2%. The market seems to consider this to be a done deal. Hopefully the stocks will continue to climb as people start to realize how much better the final company will be.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just hope the merged entity is big enough for both Stern and O&A. But with Karmazin and Howie so close, I can't help but worry about the bbboys just a little.

On cnbc tv now

Great...now we'll get more of the same...stale playlists, more commercialization, and we'll have to pay even more for it! Don't think for one minute that Mel K. and his buddies are looking to soak the consumers for more $$$!

I think this takes some of the leverage away from the democrats on the FCC board. That could mean that the concessions won't be that bad.

Jon

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

It is about time. And it appears the right thing happened. I am still waiting for the other shoe to drop. I am so glad that the ogolopolies that own terrestial radio continue to come under siege. Hopefully, somewhat will now get into stadium ticket sales.

It is about time. And it appears the right thing happened. I am still waiting for the other shoe to drop. I am so glad that the ogolopolies that own terrestial radio continue to come under siege. Hopefully, someone will now get into stadium ticket sales.

Time to buy SIRIUS - receiver that is :)

microcap_mavin,
One thing that Mel like more than Howard is $$$, and whether people like them or not O&A can bring in money, and that will hopefully be the bottomline, and they will all stay on the new merged company.

Personally I could care less about the Howard/O&A battles. Just as long as I can still listen to O&A.

I think even Howard and O&A don't care about it as much as we think. Howard & Anthony were at the same poker (or blackjack) table for an evening, and nothing came of it.

Now I can get soccer updates on my XM radio!

Who gives a shit about 0.0 .......it was proved recently that they had next to no ratings on XM contrary to what they were claiming.... meanwhile Howard 100 and Howard 101 were the two most listened to channels on Satelltie radio...even Bubba The Love Sponge beat them in sat. radio ratings...I guess that's why they had to go back to free radio where they have had markets dropped on them left and right...so if they go,tough shit..they suck.

Get ready for over priced crappy radio, no competition they can charge what ever they want!, don't like the music selection, too bad go to the other satellite company, oh wait there isn't one. This totally blows as SIRIUS has massive dropouts if you get near trees, and SIRIUS is pay FM with repetitive play lists. The FCC still has not approved yet, but most likely will. The powers that be have ruined a great thing, good by XM as we know it. Time to get an I pod or look into wi fi radio.

THANK GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, now's the time to WAIT to buy any new hardware.

The post-merger hardware will be the a la carte, where you can pick & choose any channels you want. If you have a XM or a Sirius pre-merger hardware you will have to buy channels in tiers. So it's still time to wait until the new merged company hardware is released.

But that's just my $.02

EVERYBODY DIGG THIS!! THIS IS HUGE NEWS!!!

http://tinyurl.com/25a9nu

Actually, the last year has been the time to not buy new hardware. Now's the time to freakin' cancel your subs. Guess I have to hope the FCC objects.

Yes, please digg this. And anyway, it's been nearly 400 days, hasn't it?

H O L Y
S H I T !

It's about time.
Over a year to figure out that this was not a monopoly.

Also I hope 0.0 get canned :-P

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!! WOWOWOW

F*** you, Herb Kohl. Him and the rest of the CORRUPT legislative body that tried to line their pockets can kiss my ass with their lips open in Macy's Window. Can't wait until the FCC approves the merger with no major barriers and Kohl, the Congressional Clear Channel SHILLS, Jesse "jerkoff" Jackson and the rest of his G'town morons that use race as a weapon and are as racist of an organization as the Klan, all eat it as Howard holds a funeral in front of the NAB.

Lot of rage in the kid here, but its all worth it. C'mon Chmn. Martin lets get this deal done.

Now, the question is, when will they lower our monthly subscriptions........

Lol you guys are fuckin stupid. What reason do they have to increase the price per month, their whole business model revolves around the amount of subscribers paying monthly fees. They have no reason to increase the fees you pay. If anything they should be able to drop the fees if anything after they get rid of some of the crossover expenses that both companies have.

>>> Now, the question is, when will they lower our monthly subscriptions........

ROTFLMAO.

Yeah, right. Now, they have a monopoly. I'm sure the first thing they will do is to cut prices.

That's funny.

Gee, Murphy, how do you REALLY feel?

Its obvious Stack Pointer has absolutely no business sense. Lets raise prices IMMEDIATELY and watch our subs fall like his IQ.

Brilliant acumen. I hear Countrywide Financial is looking for a new CEO, any interest?

Sorry StackPointer. You lose.

WE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES!!

O&A always win in the end. Highest rated show/channel on satellite radio.

Get read for XM/Sirius Satellite Radio. XM WILL get top billing. More subs = top billing.

Sorry Stern Zombies, XM has won the war. End of story, ladies.

For all you who think the services will suffer... Understand this, XM provides it's service thorugh old pager towers, whereas Sirius is a direct feed from sat. If you have both XM and Sirius, then you've noticed a difference in sound quaility. XM sounds horrible when compared to Sirius. Sirius will retrofit all existing towers (maybe not all), and sound quailty will be improved, as will reception.

Lee Abrams was right - it's time to bail out.

"No competition"? what the hell do you call the majority Clear Channel and Infiniti owned terrestrial radio stations? What do you call iPods, Zunes and other MP3 players? No one needs to have satellite radio. No one is forcing you to listen. For those of you who still like listening to watered down censored radio you have that right. Complaining about the merger makes no sense unless you work for Clear Channel, Infiniti or other radio station markets, because you don't want competition! You KNOW for a fact that Sirius/XM compete with all your crappy KISS and Z100 morning Zoo stations, and you don't like it one bit.

Also why didn't anyone bitch when Blu Ray won the so called Hi Def video player war? Why can't there be both HD DVD and Blu Ray? Oh I k now why! You're all suckling at the teat that is terrestrial radio

I thought the FCC & DOJ were "coordinating" their efforts to release approval/disapproval? I thought that's what we've been reading about, the reasons for the delay...where's the FCC's decision??

Monopoly? why dont you tell that to Rupert Murdoch and Bill Gates.

Wow, actual logic was used. Why did it take so long?

Pure Slytherin- Great blu ray analogy. They just want to go back the rail road freight transportation days when they were the monopoly like terrestrial radio.

I say that the FCC probably approves within 48 hours. Not much more reason for delay now.

As for the share price, man alive, Sirius hit 3.89 today, but then it fell back down. As of a few weeks ago there was about 100 million shares short in Sirius. Since there was 140 Million in volume today, I would safely say that at least half of the shorts covered their positions. So frankly, I am a bit disappointed in the share performance today. I mean big whoop, DOJ approves and this thing only hops back up the price it was at in February. Come on fuck, I need at least $4.50. And I don't want to wait another year for it either.

I have a lifetime sub on Siri. I bet they grandfather in the life subs and there is no drop in the number of channels and the price.... what price increase? I cannot believe that anyone that has had the satrad for more than 2 years doesn't have a life sub. We should be covered on price increases. Additional channels to that original package, maybe not, but I don't see them charging the lifers more for a similar package.

I see Jack, it's all about what YOU want. You don't like a show, so you want it gone. That's what's wrong with this fucking country anymore. Too many selfish cunts like yourself. I guess it's the American way.

This CANNOT be good for variety. Just wait a few months when channels get zapped as "repetitive". It'll be up to internet radio to fill the gap. Here come the shallow playlists, endless repetition, and now XM listeners, who have voted with their wallets for deeper playlists, and more variety, get shafted. Time to follow Lee Abrams out the door! This is a very sad day for choice.

This CANNOT be good for variety. Just wait a few months when channels get zapped as "repetitive". It'll be up to internet radio to fill the gap. Here come the shallow playlists, endless repetition, and now XM listeners, who have voted with their wallets for deeper playlists, and more variety, get shafted. Time to follow Lee Abrams out the door! This is a very sad day for choice.

your moms box

This excites my day a little bit. But here's a question, if the FCC doesn't approve it, then what happens? Do they get to fight it out, or does the FCC have the ultimate say?

Hey Stack! The Department of Justice disagrees with you- this is no monopoly. In fact, the DOJ has disagreed with everything you have written on the merger subject for the past six months- including how the market is defined and whether the consumer would be hurt.

How does it feel to be so wrong?

rjr, Stackpointer has a 100% record.

A perfect record.

Of being wrong.

Stack

Stack

Stack

Stack

Why so quiet?

I have hope for the USA today. They have done the obvious and correct thing.

Finally This makes me very happy.

And, Stack Pointer...Told you so...Look towards the future of technology and not to the present. But, I honestly didn't think the looking would be done today, haha.

I have hope for the USA today. They have done the obvious and correct thing.

wow, who saw this comin'?

ling long..

Great. Now I get to ask the local Infiniti dealer how to remove the XM module after Sirius horques things up...

Gotta say it...... How long before dopey and anthony are on Sterns show bitching out from their past ignorance and comments only to hear Stern hasnt cared about them for years...
Good luck and welcome aboard you pesty critters..... AHAHAHAHAHAHA Now they got sumtin to be proud of again, they are working for the same company the "KING of all Radio" works for.... I can see them right now in XM' corp offices wanting more money.... "But we now have 3 maybe 4 more listeners and are partners with Mr Stern... pay us... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Good for them I say!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>> Hey Stack! The Department of Justice disagrees with you- this is no monopoly. In fact, the DOJ has disagreed with everything you have written on the merger subject for the past six months- including how the market is defined and whether the consumer would be hurt.

When I wrote those things I was well aware that the enforcement at DOJ had hit an all time low and that there was a good chance it would be approved. But this decision was at-odds with the staff recommendation (I'd wager this tidbit comes out over the ensuing weeks). A purely political decision, IMO. Which is the reason I have constantly couched my remarks with the understanding that it is was a 50/50 shot.

That said, I wasn't wrong about EVERYTHING as you suggest:

- The Division's investigation revealed, however, that no such interoperable radio is on the market and that such a radio likely would not be introduced in the near term. (I guess just about everyone here will want to argue about THAT).

- For example, in the important automotive channel, such a radio could not be introduced in the near term due to the engineering required to integrate radios into new vehicles. (I guess Max will want to argue with DOJ about THAT)

- For example, in the important automotive channel, such a radio could not be introduced in the near term due to the engineering required to integrate radios into new vehicles. (I guess Doberman/Tyler will want to argue about THAT).

- While DOJ believed significant variable cost synergies COULD be achieved (with which I disagree still), they said, "It was not possible to estimate the magnitude of the efficiencies with precision due to the lack of evidentiary support provided by XM and Sirius, and many of the efficiencies claimed by the parties were not credited or were discounted because they did not reflect improvements in economic welfare, could have been achieved without the proposed transaction, or were not likely to be realized within the next several years."

In the end, the companies got what they wanted -- a monopoly. It leaves consumers with less choice in content, and effectively destroys the potential sat radio once had.

But I can live with it.

It's been a long time coming, unfortunately I've never seen a merger that in the end resulted in a price drop for the consumers, I hope this time I'm wrong ...

Oh and for the knucklehead who thinks O&A won the war, thats ridicules, try backing it up with facts next time ... none of it matters anymore, they will be one company before the end of the week ...

Stack:

ROTFLMAO.

Yeah, right. Now, they have a monopoly. I'm sure the first thing they will do is to cut prices.

That's funny.>>\

Actually, Stack, you seem to be the last person on earth who doesn't realize this can never be a monopoly. There's bandwidth all over the place, and the ensuing months since the merger was first proposed has done nothing else but bear this out even more. Satellite, as a delivery system, will have to compete with all of these new outlets, which are rapidly gaining traction.

People can walk away from satellite very easily. And teh DOJ noted, quite correctly:

"To the extent there were some concern that the combined firm might be able profitably to increase prices in the mass-market retail channel, efficiencies flowing from the transaction likely would undermine any such concern."

And: "The likely evolution of technology played an important role in the DOJ's assessment of competitive effects in the longer term because, for example, consumers are likely to have access to new alternatives, including mobile broadband Internet devices, by the time the current long-term contracts between the parties and car manufacturers expire."

Wait, Sirius and XM are merging? Where has this news been?

Less choice > NO choice

About fucking time I say, these fucking assholes in Congress will allow Exxon and Mobile to merge in a matter of fucking months, making oil (which as a society) we have made a NECESSITY be $4 a gallon. I think any right minded person would agree that debating this fucking issue for over 2 years is absurd. FUCK THE FCC. I hope those cocksuckin motherfuckers cringe everytime they can't fine someone for saying FUCK

That should be Less Choice DOES NOT EQUAL No Choice

>>> And: "The likely evolution of technology played an important role in the DOJ's assessment of competitive effects in the longer term because, for example, consumers are likely to have access to new alternatives, including mobile broadband Internet devices, by the time the current long-term contracts between the parties and car manufacturers expire."

I would totally agree with this. Surely, by 2017, we will start to see some of these so-called "competitors" materialize.

To be called to task by the guy who claimed an OEM install could be done in 10 months, I don't feel too badly, though....

The Exxon/Mobil merger had conditions though. They had to give up stations, property and allow the company that they divested to the rights to use the Exxon and Mobil name for 5 years. With fee based options for the further years.

This merger is exactly why I'm no longer an XM customer.

I have an ipod I can fill with FREE music (no i'm not dumb to pay for itunes) and I can listen to podcasts talk shows that are not just the same immature O&A/Howard toilet humor or boring political talk.

Sat Radio is dead folks.

Holy shit man, I hope this has an enormous fuckin effect on the satellite industry. especitally on the bubba show and stern show. And now that the government doesn't have there greasy hands all over it either maybe I can enjoy my Sirius radio more. fukn eh

The NAB douchebags have already released a statement:

"We are astonished that the Justice Department would propose granting a monopoly to two companies that systematically broke FCC rules for more than a decade. To hinge approval of this monopoly on XM and Sirius's refusal to deliver on a promise of interoperable radios is nothing short of breathtaking."

The FCC may take longer. They (NAB) will go give a little "huddla huddla" to a few of their cronies on 12th Street (FCC HQ) and get this thing stretched out.

Then again if they sent the same "girls" that they did over at the DOJ, then it may be a quick decision.

Stack you are so funny....i just turned off one sirius radio in its place i am paying for slacker....instead. 22 stations preloaded, ability to skip songs....download my own mp3 collections...poof lookie there competition....they got my dollar instead of sirius.

do you know what i listen too on the way into work instead of that sat radio, 104.1........where i used to listen to a few sirius stations. once slacker comes out with a docking station in the car i am so buying it.

so you were saying something about a monopoly....gee they sure got me stuck in their product...i am soooo doomed...

Finally I hope this convices Howard to stay a little longer...as far as O&A...Hmm...I guess there will be room for them but if they want listeners I suggest they begin asking for an afternoon of evening slot. Satellite radio is Howard Country and O&A need to understand that Howard has their jobs in the palm of his hands.

Stackpointer - this moment gives me great satisfaction. Now you can go back to your shitty, miserable local radio job. I do not normally gloat but months of your pompous attitude have made this moment all the more redeeming.

...and so now it is done... I am become death.. this is how radio dies.. not with a BOOM, BANG, or wimper, but a dull thud as the radio hits the bottom of my trash can...

Don't be babies. No one cares if spoiled brats are upset that two companies were allowed to merge. If you don't like it...don't listen, but no one gives a crap about these idle threats and what you do with your radio.

Question: Why couldn't they wait till day 400? Instead they wait till 399. Can't we make it an even number please?

And FCC, it would be great if you could make your decision on day 400, it would scream really loud that you're too damn incompetent to make rather simple easy decisions. I mean if XM had to die, I'd rather it this way, then rather being bought out by some company down the line. Then there would be 0 hope.

So, who will be the cometic 'sweethearts' of Satallete Radio? Howard or O & A?

"So, who will be the cometic 'sweethearts' of Satallete Radio? Howard or O & A?"


O & A will be fired. Mel will not keep them around and risk them potentially damaging this newly formed company.

This new company does not need to the kind of bad PR that could come from another one of 0.0's mistakes.

The only smart thing to do is to fire them and get rid of that unnecessary risk.

Stack: - - (quoting DOJ) For example, in the important automotive channel, such a radio could not be introduced in the near term due to the engineering required to integrate radios into new vehicles. (I guess Max will want to argue with DOJ about THAT)

For example, in the important automotive channel, such a radio could not be introduced in the near term due to the engineering required to integrate radios into new vehicles. (I guess Max will want to argue with DOJ about THAT)"

Depends what one calls "near term." And with a wave of your wand, you state: "In the end, the companies got what they wanted -- a monopoly. It leaves consumers with less choice in content, and effectively destroys the potential sat radio once had."


Hardly......

BTW, Stack, the futility of your position is made manifest by the fact you kept claiming the companies wanted a monopoly while at the same time derisively stating it was technologically impossible for them to do so.


In the near term, anyway........

It's NOT a merger. Sirius is buying xm.

This is hardly what I would call the Satellite of Love. Perhaps I should take my Chevy to the levee with the Big Bopper. Mel will rooooon XM.

If Howard (said it on air) and O&A (don't know b/c I don't listen, only assume) can get over their past, do you think the fans can as well? As for XM "winning" this battle as one guy said, is that even true? Do we need to bash each other? I have Sirius and I consider both to have won. For what it's worth, I think that technically Sirius took-over XM, but I think it was close to a 50-50 split. I'm not sure. Also, I think that the current Sirius CEO is going to be the new company's CEO.

TIme to upgrade to HD radio. No support to any monopoly.

dikardo is wrong: Like Sirius, XM transmits its programming directly from satellites; in addition, the signal is augmented (in urban areas) by nearly 900 terrestrial repeaters.

Does anyone know if there will be a new name for the combined company or will it be branded exclusively as either the XM brand or the Sirius brand?

Let's get real, folks. Ron and Fez lisp, O&A aren't funny, and Bubba and Ferrall are unlistenable. I only pray that now I will be able to listen to Howard on my factory XM.

the only 3 channels that even matter on this fucking site are 202 on XM and 100/101 on Sirius. If one of them leaves the world ends. I actually hope all 3 get shit canned and then this fucking war between the zombies and the pests will end. You all need to change the channel and grow a brain and realize that there's more out there than that. and if any changes happen they probably won't be for another year anyways so don't start crying yet ladies.

YES!!! Finally

This is not a victory for Stern. This is not a victory for O & A. There are other channels on these services, people. Maybe if you tune around a little you'll find something else? This pathetic war between the zombies and the pests is doing nothing but making both faction's dicks just a little bit harder. Tune around and listen to other stations. You just might find something you like.

good, all we need now is to get rid of o&a

Howard Stern always wins in the end.

I'm also excited that XM people will be able to (hopefully) listen to Jason Ellis' show!

canceling now

Stack: "I would totally agree with this. Surely, by 2017, we will start to see some of these so-called "competitors" materialize.

To be called to task by the guy who claimed an OEM install could be done in 10 months, I don't feel too badly, though...."

Let me enlighten you on two points- first, a lot of that competition, as many see it, has ALREADY materialized in the form of every new car being IPod or MP3 capable. Most sane observers of the media space agree on that much, without getting ass over end dogmatic about it. In-car Internet is coming a LOT sooner than 2017, btw.

Second, your oft repeated slur about my claiming a satellite OEM install could be done in 10 months was just your attempt to look clever- because I never claimed it. I own a Mazda product, and when Sirius was first made available for the Mazda line, these were effing PORT INSTALLED options- and it was made available on every Mazda model from the Miata, MPV and Tribute, as well as the more current Mazda 6 and RX-8. Needless to say, these older platforms didn't need a whole redesign to make them Sat-ready. YOU, on the other hand, have repeatedly claimed it would take years, and major redesigns, to accept any new satellite radio, and even claimed a satellite radio was a more complex device than than traction control, which is laughable to anyone with the intellect to do more than say, change a flat tire.

So get off it. I don't what your agenda has been all this time, but you have made a full time career out of this doom scenario of yours.

Stack: "I would totally agree with this. Surely, by 2017, we will start to see some of these so-called "competitors" materialize.

To be called to task by the guy who claimed an OEM install could be done in 10 months, I don't feel too badly, though...."

Let me enlighten you on two points- first, a lot of that competition, as many see it, has ALREADY materialized in the form of every new car being IPod or MP3 capable. Most sane observers of the media space agree on that much, without getting ass over end dogmatic about it. In-car Internet is coming a LOT sooner than 2017, btw.

Second, your oft repeated slur about my claiming a satellite OEM install could be done in 10 months was just your attempt to look clever- because I never claimed it. I own a Mazda product, and when Sirius was first made available for the Mazda line, these were effing PORT INSTALLED options- and it was made available on every Mazda model from the Miata, MPV and Tribute, as well as the more current Mazda 6 and RX-8. Needless to say, these older platforms didn't need a whole redesign to make them Sat-ready. YOU, on the other hand, have repeatedly claimed it would take years, and major redesigns, to accept any new satellite radio, and even claimed a satellite radio was a more complex device than than traction control, which is laughable to anyone with the intellect to do more than say, change a flat tire.

So get off it. I don't what your agenda has been all this time, but you have made a full time career out of this doom scenario of yours.

Stack: "I would totally agree with this. Surely, by 2017, we will start to see some of these so-called "competitors" materialize.

To be called to task by the guy who claimed an OEM install could be done in 10 months, I don't feel too badly, though...."

Let me enlighten you on two points- first, a lot of that competition, as many see it, has ALREADY materialized in the form of every new car being IPod or MP3 capable. Most sane observers of the media space agree on that much, without getting ass over end dogmatic about it. In-car Internet is coming a LOT sooner than 2017, btw.

Second, your oft repeated slur about my claiming a satellite OEM install could be done in 10 months was just your attempt to look clever- because I never claimed it. I own a Mazda product, and when Sirius was first made available for the Mazda line, these were effing PORT INSTALLED options- and it was made available on every Mazda model from the Miata, MPV and Tribute, as well as the more current Mazda 6 and RX-8. Needless to say, these older platforms didn't need a whole redesign to make them Sat-ready. YOU, on the other hand, have repeatedly claimed it would take years, and major redesigns, to accept any new satellite radio, and even claimed a satellite radio was a more complex device than than traction control, which is laughable to anyone with the intellect to do more than say, change a flat tire.

So get off it. I don't what your agenda has been all this time, but you have made a full time career out of this doom scenario of yours.

it is amazing to me how many people really think that O&A are a factor in the merger. They are losing cities where they broadcast for free!

No one in the media cares about their show. If they are fired it is solely because they are not worth the price based on the listenership they bring in.

"the only 3 channels that even matter on this fucking site are 202 on XM and 100/101 on Sirius. If one of them leaves the world ends.>>


If that's all people think SatRad is good for, they shouldn't subscribe in the first place.

I love how the haters out there are delusional enough to think that it's a buyout and not a merger. Get a clue, would you people
When they post it shouldn't read Anonymous Coward, it should read Ignorant Douchebag.

Try reading a little and learning about how the grown-ups of the world actually do business. Maybe if you put that 4th grade reading level to good use, you might be enlightened.

Who am I kidding, you will always 'hate' the other company for whatever reason. Whether it's Howard, or whatever the reason is. Meanwhile, what you hate now will become part of your company too.

When will be able to listen to Howard on XM? anybody out there know? I have a GM vehicle that TSS (or anyone else) does not make a Sirius convertor for my "platform" NICCCCCCCE!

When will be able to listen to Howard on XM? anybody out there know? I have a GM vehicle that TSS (or anyone else) does not make a Sirius convertor for my "platform" NICCCCCCCE!

HAAHAHAH FUCK THE FAGGOTY PESTS! 0.0 ARE GOING DOWN NOW! BETTER SUCK MEL'S DICK ON YOUR VACATION 0&GHEY. I'M SURE THIS VACATION WILL LAST LONGER THAN JUST TOMORROW AND THEY WILL BE GONE PERMANENTLY.

HOWARD STERN IS THE KOAM! BETTER FALL IN LINE AND FELLATE STERN LIKE BUBBA OR FUCK OFF AND GET HEARD ON YOUR THREE AM STATIONS DOUCHEBAGS!

PODCAST WILLY HERE WE COME!!! AHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAH

Board Room Jimmy says to diversify your satrad liquidity strategy.

Like O&A and R&F (noon to three) but the real issue is the differnce in musical philosophy. With the merger the new "entity" will most likely become rehashed FM/AM stations with no exploration. Lee was the Heart and Soul of XM, when he left I knew I would begin to hear the same songs over and over. Just like I do on terrestrial. And don't kid more commercials are coming. Lots and Lots.

Posted by: Exidor | March 24, 2008 3:40 PM ">>

"More of the same..."Good God man - why do you even subscribe to one of them then~? Lol...paranoia runs deep.


BEEN FREAKING WAITIN' FOR THIS! OPIE AND ANTHONY PLUS NASCAR!??

I think I died and went to satellite heaven.... :)

Fuck you O & A and your fans. Another bad choice. The little doggy company pissed all over you pussies. Howard took down XM. Remember you said he would fade away? Stupid Assholes!

the NAB and Georgetown can go suck my balls what a statement from the NAB and they had over 400 days to prepare for this and thats all they have to say! They can go to hell cause sirius-xm have MERGED!!! Thank god for the DOJ now only if we can get Mr. Martin to get off his fat ass and get the other 1/2 of the approval completed then where set!!!

After this was announced, I went back to listening to CDs and a couple of decent traditional FM stations. It wasn't bad at all. I won't miss sat rad as much as I thought I would. Just like taking a trip back to where I left off in 2002. Now all I need to do is close out my long-term subs.

Finally I have hair. But I can't read three times as fast as I sweat, so, let's buy gum!

getter done

getter done

Those Against The Merger

Stack Pointer


Those For The Merger


Minority Interest Organizations

-- NAACP

-- Second District of the African -- National Council of

Methodist Episcopal Church Women's Organizations

-- Hispanic Federation -- National Latino Farmers and

Ranchers

-- Independent Women's Forum -- New York State Federation of

Hispanic Chambers of Commerce

-- Latinos in Information Sciences -- National Black Chamber of

and Technology Association (LISTA) Commerce

-- League of United Latin American -- The Latino Coalition

Citizens

-- Women Impacting Public Policy

-- Women Involved in Farm Economics

Corporations and Manufacturers

-- Chrysler

-- Circuit City

-- Crutchfield Corporation

-- Ford Motor Company

-- General Motors Corporation

-- Harpo Productions

-- Honda

-- Hyundai

-- Kia Motors America

-- Loral Space & Communications

-- NASCAR

-- Oracle

-- Toyota

-- RadioShack

Think Tanks and Consumer Groups

-- 60 Plus Association

-- American Association of People with Disabilities

-- American Trucking Associations

-- Americans for Prosperity

-- Americans for Tax Reform

-- American Values

-- Citizens for Community Values (CCV)

-- Club for Growth

-- Competitive Enterprise Institute

-- FamilyNet Radio

-- Family Research Council

-- Federation of Southern Cooperatives

-- Intertribal Agriculture Council

-- League of Rural Voters

-- National Taxpayers Union

-- Rural Coalition

-- The Free State Foundation

-- The Heritage Foundation

-- Tennessee Conservative Union

Current and Former Public Officials, and Federal Regulators

-- Mayor Karl F. Dean of Nashville, TN

-- Former Senator Bill Bradley

-- Congressman Joe Baca

-- Congressman Sanford Bishop

-- Congressman Rick Boucher

-- Congresswoman Corrine Brown

-- Congresswoman Yvette Clarke

-- Congressman Danny Davis

-- Congressman Eliot Engel

-- Congressman Bob Filner

-- Congresswoman Virginia Foxx

-- Congressman Ralph Hall

-- Congressman Alcee Hastings

-- Congressman Connie Mack

-- Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney

-- Congressman Ted Poe

-- Congressman Bobby Rush

-- Congressman Pete Sessions

-- Congressman Ed Towns

-- Congressman Anthony Weiner

-- Reed Hundt, former FCC Chairman

-- Harold Furchtgott-Roth, former FCC Commissioner

-- Mark Fowler, former FCC Chairman

-- Randolph J. May, former FCC Assistant General Counsel

-- Thomas Hazlett, former FCC Chief Economist

My Caddy and Howard what a pair..........

Sigh.... one down, one likely to follow.... I'm not happy... and I share the sentiments that others have posted about this being the end of the deeper playlists I've grown attached to as an XM subscriber for over 6 years. I've been looking a little more at Slacker each day... and if the merged company does decide to slash playlists and increase repetition, I'll be out the door.

Here's to hoping for the best... but preparing for the worst.

Oh Happy Day! Dancin' in the Streets . . . with Howard!

Oh Happy Day! Dancin' in the Streets . . . with Howard!

Oh Happy Day! Dancin' in the Streets . . . with Howard!

when can i get baseball on sirius?

MikeV, you can't head for the door...didn't you hear, there is nowhere to go! You're stuck with SatRad forever since no one else provides identical content in an identical manner. All hail the all-powerful monopoly!!

YEAHHHH!!!!! IT'S ABOUT TIME!!

GREAT JOB RYAN FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK

After 400 days of reading all short interest loser BS comments, finally you can all eat your shorts!
Don't bet against Mel! You bunch of F-kin losers. Time to crawl back under your short rocks.

Thank you Orbicast for always providing the information I needed to stay positive.

Long time SIRI XMSR investor.

So, from what I can gather from all of the PRO-Howard comments is that nothing else airs on Sirius between the hours of 6AM-12PM... there are no other talk shows, comedy shows allowed. O&A AND Howard can coexist on the same platform dummies, possibly even in the same time slot. One may be more popular than the other, but honestly it doesn't matter, who honestly cares? (and if you do you're a loser) O&A and Howard were at their peak when they were working for the same company. Competition is great for talk radio and we're now going to have it.

GREAT NEWS!

Could we see H100 eventually being Howard at morning, R&F at noon, and O&A in afternoon, and then Bubba/Ferrall in evening/nights. That would be a killer lineup in my opinion, and replays of everything on 101 for WC.

I personally could give a shit about the wrap up show or any of the other bull. If you gotta keep it, maybe do a fucking hour between 11 and 12. Sorry, I'm not a raving lunatic Zombie/Pest, so I guess I can think outside of the H100 or 202 mentality.

this is great news

O&A and Howard together again

Can't wait to hear O&A on my XACT and football on my MyFi/Inno. Actually, no need to get a new Inno (since the old one got soaked in Barq's).

Hopefully, the XM channels merge with the Sirius music channels and the sound quality is more acceptable, rather than sounding like AM radio through a POTS.

LA LA LA LA LAAAAAAAAAAAA.... TAKE THAT YOU MOTHER HUCKERS!!! LINGER LONGER............

YS YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES HOWARD STERN RULES

By reading these postings it is clear to me that this is not a merger between two SAT radio companies. It really amazes me how many people sees it as a competition between Howard & O&A.

1. Howard fans. This is your right. Get a life. 200 channels. I think if howard told you that he was launching his own satellite and gonna charge you 12.95/month you all would be happy. I mean really, why have 200 other channels?

2. He makes his own controversy, and you feed into it and line his pockets. He's a smart business man. And, yes, it's about the money.

3. Howard thinks he will see another 1 million listeners from a merger. If he is not in the news battling the FCC making his own controversy like he used too, well XM subscribers would of already switched? no?

4. I am glad that Howard is not on terrestrial radio anymore. They finally figured out how to take your money from you ad stream line it.

5. XM & Sirrus have some good quality programing. You should check it out.

About time,,now I can listen to my beloved YANKEES,out here on the LEFT COAST !!!

You people need to relax. Once they join forces, if you don't like what's being offered, then cancel!! You people cry like you're bound to something permanant. Satellite radio is not a necessity. Why not put this kind of energy toward complaining about rising gas prices, spending trillion for this BS war, or several other issues that matter!

Took long enough!!!!!

Fuck O and A! They will be laid off. And for those who think this is bad, Fuck you too!
O and A attracted 30,000 people to XM. Howard attracted millions. Noone will continue to listen to those fags. Guaranteed by the end of the year they are gone. Along with everyone else at XM.

NOW I CAN GET THE RED SOX'S GAME ON SIRIUS

I'm the biggest douche on this website.

one day I listend to O&A for about 45 min. in a freinds car I was wondering how they talk with each others dicks in their mouths it was realy BAD solong homos

Howard and Artie rules and always will. OandA can go back to FM and Jim Norton can go back to suckin' in 50 seat bar rooms.

about time is right... lets face it, what did XM have talent wise without the deal?

in speaking to an XM lover today, he attempted to spew some anti-Howard Stats claiming that he had no real impact on Sirius subscribers. But the real people out there know thruth. Howard is why i bought 4 radios/ 4 subscriptions. Certainly Not the O&A butt plugs.

You have all managed to turn this beautiful announcement into a bickering contest. STFU.

XM just got pewned by Sirius. Now we have to wait for the hybrid tuners and playlist. Howard Rules!

Does anyone know of a Sirius link that doesn't simply have the word Sirius in it like: http://www.sirius.com/ My company blocks it but there must be another way in. If you know of any such link please email it to me at bkaralow@aol.com

as a prior sirius subscriber, i have to say how dissappointed i am that my new TL has XM.. GAWD i hope it will pick up sirius some day...

NOW GET DTV

IF ARTIE LEAVE I'm droping this shit

Does anyone know of a Sirius link that doesn't simply have the word Sirius in it like: http://www.sirius.com/ My company blocks it but there must be another way in. If you know of any such link please email it to me at bkaralow@aol.com

yo man thats guna suck balls fuck xm. xm sucks shit out of a cows asshole thats the most stupidest fucking radio out there all the channles suck cock fuck it fuck every one with it fuck u for fucking buying it fuck off. Sirius radio is the fucking BEST every thing on it rocks. I LOVE HOWARD STERN U ROCK.thats the only reason y i bought Sirius radio just so i can listen to HOWARD uncensored.
FUCK xm and
FUCK THE FCC

yo man thats guna suck balls fuck xm. xm sucks shit out of a cows asshole thats the most stupidest fucking radio out there all the channles suck cock fuck it fuck every one with it fuck u for fucking buying it fuck off. Sirius radio is the fucking BEST every thing on it rocks. I LOVE HOWARD STERN U ROCK.thats the only reason y i bought Sirius radio just so i can listen to HOWARD uncensored.
FUCK xm and
FUCK THE FCC