That's what is being suggested in a recent AP article profiling The King of All Media, nearly two years into his current 5-year contract.
"He's only two years into his five-year, $500 million deal with Sirius and he's already considering a possible extension. Stern is on board with the proposed satellite merger with once-rival XM. And he's proud of his role in expanding the number of Sirius subscribers from 600,000 when he signed his deal to nearly 8 million today."
This would obviously be good news for Sirius Satellite Radio Inc, especially if we're to believe the Arbitron numbers that show that a majority of Sirius' listenership is highly skewed towards Stern's two channels.
Meanwhile, Stern's two-year anniversary at Sirius will be marked with a "gift" for his fans: an epic recounting Howard Stern's life. "The History of Howard Stern" - starting off with Stern's bar mitzvah and trips to summer camp - kicks off on December 17th on Sirius, covering the years 1954-85.
[AP]
Thanks Gary!
Get ready for the trolls to show up.
I hope he extends his contract, I love the freaking show. But from listening everyday, he has yet to really hint at staying. Maybe this article will be the beginning.
And if they doing resign Bubba, Sirius will clearly show that Howard is all they care about. It's sickening to see the money being payed to people like Oprah and Martha (both of whom bring a combined 6 subscribers) and then they can't make it work with an established radio guy.
"I've got my kids, and I've got Alison....
Alison... She's the best friend
I could ever have."
Hoo hoo...
I didn't know he was still doing radio.
sincerely,
0.0
Howard resigning + merger = iPod for me.
I refuse to pay his over inflated contract.
Howards bar mitzvah and summer camp. Are you fucking kidding me.
If he does stay, he had better get ready for the biggest pay cut in history.
StackPointer hit the nail on the head!
Hoo Hoo,
Then I became terribly irrelevant and un funny in 2001 after Jackie the Jokeman left and no one was feeding me material via Lotus notes anymore.
Howard better count on a major salary drop in a post merger world. No way in hell the merged company can justify paying him half a billion where there's no competition...
A 100 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR??!!!?? Is what they are paying this guy?? I am sorry but this is why Sirius needs the merger to go through because they are going to go bankrupt paying a human being 100 Million dollars a year to do a radio show.
I agree with Stackpointer he better take the biggest pay cut in history, if he can financially survive.
NO TO MONOPOLY!
Sirius needs either this or the merger to stay relevant. Good for them that Howard thinks he wants to still be in the game four years from now. On the other hand, I wonder whether they can afford much more good news like this.
It's irritating that he's still obliquely taking credit for everyone who joined Sirius since his announcement. Eight million minus 600,000 equals 7.4 million listeners every day Robin, hoo hoo. I wonder if the wording of "his role" reflects Mel telling him to knock it off before he embarrasses himself further.
I know that this has been said over and over again but does anyone realize that the $100million is for the "Howard Stern Show" not Howard Stern the person. Geez.
Yeah like Sal and RIchard and everyone else in the back office (including gary, hell even on air talent) get a paycheck from the Howard Stern Production Company not from sirius' accounting department.
Bound to happen. I may be an O&A fan, but I gotta hand it to him for driving growth.
Howard is a media whore, who has not gotten any media attention in awhile. My guess is that he has leaked this to get himself in the news again. It's a patter with him. He's only relevant to Sirius (and to some extent, XM), but that's it. Those without sat radio really don't have him on his radar.
Howard is a media whore, who has not gotten any media attention in awhile. My guess is that he has leaked this to get himself in the news again. It's a patter with him. He's only relevant to Sirius (and to some extent, XM), but that's it. Those without sat radio really don't have him on their radar.
Yeah.
Let's recap.
1. A merger is a wrong-headed and bad thing to do. The majority of the people who approve of this are Congressmen who smell Mel's money, Sirius stockholders, Sirius employees afraid for their jobs, XM employees hoping (in vain) for a job at the new company, and people who have their noses up Hoo Hoo's ass.
2. Howard Stern is a hack, and hasn't uttered a funny sound or had an original idea in over 20 years. The "shock jock" genre that he invented was invented years before by other, more talented individuals. He is vastly, vastly overpaid.
3. Of course the majority of Sirius' listeners are listening to Howard. What are they gonna listen to, Bubba the Love Sponge? You think that Howard is gonna hire someone funnier than him? Of course not. Other than their music channels, Sirius has nothing. But the new company...minus the end of the Clear Channel agreement and the elimination of Opie and Anthony and Ron and Fez (and don't kid yourself, Howard and Mel won't allow any of them to stay)...won't be anything BUT Howard. Anybody want a couple of unused satellite radio receivers?
4. So-called "terrestrial" radio (I hate that term) is full of younger, funnier, more original radio personalities than Howard Stern...but because of the attention lavished on people like him, you'll never hear about them.
Lucky for people like me, there are now a hell of a lot more choices out there than when I bought my XM PCR four years ago. Not competition to satellite radio, mind you...replacements for satellite radio.
Screw 'em. Screw 'em all.
That cover it?
Screw 'em. Screw 'em all.
That cover it?
got a Ipod?because podcast is the future of 0.0 show
"spread that virus"
it kills the 0.0 pests to see howard be sucessful on sattelite(although they all claim hes irrelevent) as they watch there clones go further downward of existence in radio...lets recap
FM stations dropping them left and right
whoopi of all people is crushing there ass's in NY
non factor to XM
bub bye "B-B-B-B-BOYS"....Debella,Mark and Brian,0.0 show,Manqueer...just another show destroyed by badmouthing the KOAM
is it "make up stuff tuesday" yet on the 0.0 morning zoo show yet?
wow this post is full of the nuts today.
guess those ratings for O&A make them angry
0.0
and damn close to 0.0 on sat radio...
oh and 500 million
lets see 1.7m according to the first ratings.
so lets call it 2m * 10 bucks a month * 12 = 240m a year.
hmm 2 years is 480m.
gee that 500m is starting to look like it was worth it. whom else is even close to covering cost. OHpra? Martha? MLB?
5 years = over a billion dollars.
gee what a stupid fucking company.
"The History of Howard Stern" is just an excuse for Howie to take another month off. Starting December 17th? Until when? January 17th?
Hoo Hoo, I just make $500 million without putting in a full week of work.
Nice job if you can get it.
"Hoo Hoo, I just make $500 million without putting in a full week of work."
Hoo Hoo i beat O&A by 10x without putting in a full week of work....
hahahahah Zero Point Zero
"gee what a stupid fucking company"
that same "stupid company" will be the one that greg and tony will be spit shining ass too when the merger goes through...but at least 0.0 are kicking ass in the FM world to fall back on....right??????????????????????
"ARE YOU WITH US HOWARD?"-GREG HUGHES
Howard staying on Sirius + Merger(or no merger) = My iPod!
Doesnt matter that hoho is the king of irrelevency (satrad) he was over years ago the future of all audio entertainment is My Computer and My iPod along with all their wireless cousins. People just dont want to hear glorified FM radio (satrad) anymore. Its about choice! and audio on MY terms! Not about some retarded DJ or poor sounding.....badly programmed radio stations. Everything i want is online now! and in 5yrs it will be OVER for XMSirius. The youth of America have no use for mediocrity! Except in the White House......
"Howard staying on Sirius + Merger(or no merger) = My iPod!
Doesnt matter that hoho is the king of irrelevency (satrad) he was over years ago the future of all audio entertainment is My Computer and My iPod along with all their wireless cousins. People just dont want to hear glorified FM radio (satrad) anymore. Its about choice! and audio on MY terms! Not about some retarded DJ or poor sounding.....badly programmed radio stations. Everything i want is online now! and in 5yrs it will be OVER for XMSirius. The youth of America have no use for mediocrity! Except in the White House......"
Bravo...truly inspirational...i got teary eyed after reading that mindless babble
take a bow kid
Posting five times under different names doesn't make you five different people, 0.0/PNess.
Maybe you have five different Sirius subscriptions too?
Merger Approved ='s
1 - Howard signs a new and FINAL contract
2 - Any Virus will be immediately immunized, no room for O&A AND Howard
3 - All Music Channels will be consolidated
4 - XM gets gutted
5 - Call centers will be merged
6 - Any overlap and low rated shows get axed
7 - Dual chip radios will be offered within 6 months, in time for baseball
8 - Mel makes the new company profitable
9 - HD radio fails
10-Investors finally happy
Some of the way I see it. IMHO
11. Millions of people, now offered no choice whatsoever, rediscover REAL radio.
For free.
WOW.... Randy in Minnesota is a bitter SOB. The list you made in your post above is wrong in all cases. You sound like a cross between the NAB and a bitter 0.0 fan.
By the way WOW stands for: We're Outta Work
"11. Millions of people, now offered no choice whatsoever, rediscover REAL radio.
For free."
if your all about "Free" radio,what brings your stupid ass to a sattelite site?
"lets see 1.7m according to the first ratings.
so lets call it 2m * 10 bucks a month * 12 = 240m a year.
hmm 2 years is 480m.
gee that 500m is starting to look like it was worth it. whom else is even close to covering cost. OHpra? Martha? MLB?
5 years = over a billion dollars.
gee what a stupid fucking company."
Yeah, it was stupid because they were already hemorrhaging cash, then they decided to dump a half billion dollars that they didn't have. Sure, it got them subs, but it also doomed them to this merger, lest they collapse under the weight of their massive debt. Make no mistake - this merger will save Sirius, not XM. XM could easily survive a failed merger, but if this merger gets foiled, look for Sirius to shop themselves out to terrestrial radio companies.
Look at what they rely on, according to the (very, very flawed) Arbitron numbers- 90% of Sirius listeners tune in to one show, for five hours a day, 4 days a week, off seemingly every other week. Meanwhile, XM listeners listen to MUSIC, you know, what these services were designed to provide in the first place? While Sirius is dependent on Hoo-Hoo not resigning, XM just has to maintain the same level of excellence on their music channels (and trust me, for music, Sirius isn't in the same league as XM - no ifs, ands, or buts.).
I will say this - Hoo-Hoo is a genius, only because he somehow managed to convince Mel that he was worth half a fucking billion dollars. Anybody that can get "Karmazy" that incredibly high on glue sniffing deserves what they get.
P.S. Hope you Hoo-Hoo fans enjoy listening to Howie's bar mitzvah - I'll be enjoying actual new content.
"lets see 1.7m according to the first ratings.
so lets call it 2m * 10 bucks a month * 12 = 240m a year.
hmm 2 years is 480m.
gee that 500m is starting to look like it was worth it. whom else is even close to covering cost. OHpra? Martha? MLB?
5 years = over a billion dollars.
gee what a stupid fucking company."
Yeah, it was stupid because they were already hemorrhaging cash, then they decided to dump a half billion dollars that they didn't have. Sure, it got them subs, but it also doomed them to this merger, lest they collapse under the weight of their massive debt. Make no mistake - this merger will save Sirius, not XM. XM could easily survive a failed merger, but if this merger gets foiled, look for Sirius to shop themselves out to terrestrial radio companies.
Look at what they rely on, according to the (very, very flawed) Arbitron numbers- 90% of Sirius listeners tune in to one show, for five hours a day, 4 days a week, off seemingly every other week. Meanwhile, XM listeners listen to MUSIC, you know, what these services were designed to provide in the first place? While Sirius is dependent on Hoo-Hoo not resigning, XM just has to maintain the same level of excellence on their music channels (and trust me, for music, Sirius isn't in the same league as XM - no ifs, ands, or buts.).
I will say this - Hoo-Hoo is a genius, only because he somehow managed to convince Mel that he was worth half a fucking billion dollars. Anybody that can get "Karmazy" that incredibly high on glue sniffing deserves what they get.
P.S. Hope you Hoo-Hoo fans enjoy listening to Howie's bar mitzvah - I'll be enjoying actual new content.
Hate to tell you this Libb, but Mel had NOTHING to do with sterns hiring--Mel wasnt with the company at the time--
With that said, giving him the cash plus stock options was steep indeed---Resigning him to an extension wont invlove as much $$ or the targets will be way up there
>>> I will say this - Hoo-Hoo is a genius, only because he somehow managed to convince Mel that he was worth half a fucking billion dollars.
He didn't convince Mel of this, he convinced Joe Clayton, who was a total idiot.
Mel's claims to the contrary notwithstanding, there is NO WAY IN HELL Karmazin would have forked over that kind of dough for Stern. XM was willing to pay $25-30M/year. SIRI could have bought Stern for slightly more. But $100M/year? $150M/year? No way would Mel have screwed up like that.
"if your all about "Free" radio,what brings your stupid ass to a sattelite site? "
Well, I won't comment on the fact that one of the few words you used that was spelled correctly was "stupid"...
But, since you ASKED....
In 2004 I was living in Minnesota and moved to Alabama, where I had a job at a radio station. I'm a huge fan of talk radio, and the area where I was living had none..unless you count Rick and Bubba or Rush Limbaugh as acceptable talk radio. I do not, so I bought a $50 XM PCR unit right before they were pulled off the market.
In 2004, the XM lineup was awesome....arguably better than today, with a lot of good shows and channels that no longer exist. It was just what I needed at that point, and in many ways XM radio saved my sanity at a very bad time in my life. I later bought an additional XM unit and a Sirius unit, so I know of what I speak. I've been a subscriber to both for a while now...but I still listen to a lot of "real" radio, because it's my passion, and it's in my best interest of my career to do so.
As it turns out, my "stupid ass" knows a lot about radio, and satellite radio. I've worked in radio, pal. I've heard Howard Stern, and every other major and semi-major shock jock out there...and if you think that Howard Stern is good radio, you're a narrow-minded pinhead. Time to grow up, expand your horizons. There's way more out there.
So, unless you know what I know and can speak with authority about something other than a phone-pranking hack and his fart-based radio show, you can eat one.
cant wait for the history of 0.0
1)tony is on the stern show doing jackie impressions(all time highlight)
2)fired
3)fired
4)XM only place to get a job
5)howard leaves FM
6)0.0 fail miserably on FM with zero competition
7)they bring nothing to XM
8)fm cans them for horrendous ratings
9)not in merger plans
10)podcast willy + unemployment line
the end
Funny. You can't say anything complimentary about Howard, only negative things about O&A. Why is this? Possibly because there is nothing good to say about Howard?
Even I've said good things about Howard. He once was funny. He currently isn't, and hasn't been for years. I have no doubt that O&A and Ron and Fez will be dumped by a merged Sirius-XM. This is because Howard won't allow anyone funnier than himself to have a show on any of his channels. Simple as that. Deny it and you lie.
Even so, I don't regularly listen to O&A or Ron and Fez. There simply aren't enough hours in the day and I have a lot to do with my time. I do listen to the one man who, while he freely admits to being inspired and influenced by Howard Stern, is better in every way. But he's not the next Howard Stern, no sir. He's the future...and Howard Stern is the past. Get on board. http://www.rickemerson.com.
Libb, I must really be missing something because my XM tuner is on XM204 because I can't figure out what fred ethel and lucy play. A lot of people say their channel names are great but if you can't figure it out without reading the brochure what is the point. I am driving. I do not have time to look at a brochure. I will say that XM 20 on 20 is a good name and Boneyard sound like good names though.
0.0 your number 10 is wrong it should read podcast willy - umemployment jones with a security escort magilicudy out the door on the back side. :)
People who don't think Stern was worth the money are retarded.
Howard brought more than just his show to sirius.. he brought name recognition. Thats worth MONEY. Sirius was almost pretty much dead in the water without him.
Now when people think of Sat Radio they think of Sirius.
People didn't even know how to pronounce Sirius before he was brought over.
BTW
Mel offered Howard a contract extension within the first year of the deal.
Randy in Minnesota = "Terrestrial" radio commercial
You are with the NAB aren't ya little fella?
Not with the NAB, though I have been employed by commercial radio stations. Hope having some experience and knowedge of the situation doesn't eliminate me from the discussion.
The NAB is not evil. Neither is satellite radio. HD-Radio is an bad idea, but that's another story. The main problem with both terrestrial and satellite radio is that they have greedy, petty, small-minded bastards running the industries.
I'm opposed to a satellite merger. I'm also opposed to large conglomorates owning 1500 radio stations. The reason that terrestrial radio largely sucks now is that big companies were allowed to run free. And now it's gonna happen to satellite radio too. Go ahead and do it...it's what you wanted. Just don't bitch when you don't like the end result.
sirius is dead in the water with or without howard if the merger is not approved. And stop with the bullshit numbers. With bonuses & stock options howards deal is close to 1 Billion dollars. Yeah, he has to pay his staff out of that. $20,000 to Gary, $15,000 to everyone else, the rest for him.
0.0, you sure know a lot about the greg & tony show for a guy who doesn't listen & hates the show. Fact is they aren't going anywhere, nor are they getting dropped left & right on FM. You may wish they were but they're not. That's just the facts.
3 years before the end of his contract he is brigning up extending the contract?
Are you kidding me? This is PR , Publicity, and a bit of Fishing... Nothing more.
As for sterns cost..
Expensive?
yes..
do I think he could have been gotten for less?
Yes,
but he is the ONLY DRIVE TIME DRAW on sirius and worth alot of money to Sirius. He has brought the subscribers to cover his pay.
Do I like him?
NO,
Cant stand the show.
But reality is that he does have loyal fans and did put Sirius on the map and since he was the draw to do so... why not go fishing for a new contract especially when the managmet is about to be shaken up if the merger goes through?
"nor are they getting dropped left & right on FM"
your right:
Philly
west palm beach
chicago
all dropped in one week
you are correct..the virus is spreading
I'm a Sirius subscriber that actually doesn't listen to Stern, so correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't this Stern's THIRD anniversary, not second? I though he started in '05.
Technically his second anniversary, since he started at Sirius in Jan of '06.
But he spent all of 2005 slamming CBS and promoting his move to satellite, so I understand how you could see it that way.
Hoo Hoo, everyone. I told you I needed a raise.
1-9-06
God damn it, Hoo Hoo. I told you to wait o n this until after the merger. That's when you, me, and the shareholders take these stupid bastards for all that they're worth.
Ha Ha. Hoo Hoo. Ha Ha. Hoo Hoo.
ARE YOU WITH US HOWARD?
"I do listen to the one man who, while he freely admits to being inspired and influenced by Howard Stern"
Come one now, O&A freely admit that Howard paved the way for syndicated/morning "hot" talk.
O&A had no problem with Howard until Howard gagged them. The self described champion of free speech has openly admitted that he's for free speech, when it benefits him. I grew up listening to Howard, and I've heard tapes of the old stuff. Pretty goddamn funny.
Howard lost me back in 2003 when his show morphed from being a funny, innovative show into a one trick pony of a platform for John Kerry. I don't care who you supported in the election, I'm not tuning into Howard to hear 4 hours of political bullshit. I want to hear about scantily clad women, and lesbos.
And that's where the rub is. Sure O&A take shots at Howard. Personally, I find it funny. But the only way Howard can deal with them is to go running to his boss and cry foul. It's a pretty much a pussy move if you ask me. Kinda takes the "edge" off the "shock jock".
All the O&A listeners in my extended circle of friends (most of my friends got XM to listen to O&A after I told them they were back) freely admit the following;
1: They grew up listening to Stern, and he's the original shock jock of the 80's.
2: That Howard is not the original shock jock. Don Imus holds that crown, sorry guys.
3: That Stern was funny up until about 2002-03, until his show became a bitch fest.
4: That they all lost respect for Stern when he admitted he had O&A gagged.
Even though I no longer found Howard funny, I had respect for him, and the show him and his crew put on for years and years. I have a lot of fond high school memories of listening to Stern as a teenager, and those old bits still make me laugh hysterically.
But to pull the pussy move of having your boss gag guys that are on the same station?
That's just bitch.
How can you respect the guy that goes behind the scenes and doesn’t have the balls to face you on the air?
Like him in his present form or now, Howard Stern is a pussy bitch. No other way to describe him..
Sorry if you don't like it, that's just too bad...
All the O&A listeners in my extended circle of friends (most of my friends got XM to listen to O&A after I told them they were back) freely admit the following;
this is interesting to me, you had to tell your OA friends and fans they were on XM? They didn't know?
I'm not gonna nock OA or preach how Great Howard is but Honestly XM/ OA fans give the man some credit. How are OA doing in the rattings? No excuses did they improve on Diamond Daves? Do they compare to Howard? Are they #1 in NYC?
How are the X/M numbers doing? Is Sirius gaining on them? Has Sirius's # grown since Howard?
What about OA syndication situation? are they being dropped or added to large markets.
Look I don't have all the answers here and I'm sure some people do, but I think it's not fair to compare OA to Howard. I think Howard will long be remembered as a truly legendary radio talent, and I don't think that will be the case w/ anyone else (OA included)
All the O&A listeners in my extended circle of friends (most of my friends got XM to listen to O&A after I told them they were back) freely admit the following;
this is interesting to me, you had to tell your OA friends and fans they were on XM? They didn't know?
I'm not gonna nock OA or preach how Great Howard is but Honestly XM/ OA fans give the man some credit. How are OA doing in the rattings? No excuses did they improve on Diamond Daves? Do they compare to Howard? Are they #1 in NYC?
How are the X/M numbers doing? Is Sirius gaining on them? Has Sirius's # grown since Howard?
What about OA syndication situation? are they being dropped or added to large markets.
Look I don't have all the answers here and I'm sure some people do, but I think it's not fair to compare OA to Howard. I think Howard will long be remembered as a truly legendary radio talent, and I don't think that will be the case w/ anyone else (OA included)
Um, more people have heard Don Iumus' name lately than Howard Stern's..
How come only old people like howard?
I mean he's old himself he needs to retire sometime.
what's considered old i'm 27 and most of my friends love Howard I'd say that his fan base is mid 20s to 40s. Aren't OA in their 40s?
Who's Dan Imus? Is that the Rutgers guy?
Don Imus is 67
Gregg Hughes is 44
Anthony Cumia is 46
and that geezer howard is 53?
Wait a minute? 2 people in their mid 40s calling some one 53 old? Jeez what hack move is next? The phrase that pays?
Hello kettle it's me pot!
Goon-
"How can you respect the guy that goes behind the scenes and doesn’t have the balls to face you on the air?
Like him in his present form or now, Howard Stern is a pussy bitch. No other way to describe him.."
You mean you respect 2 guys that bend over for a tool like Bill Donahue? Yes! The same Bill Donahue that worked to get them thrown off the air for the S4S stunt. I hear it was quite a kiss-ass fest!
You mean you respect 2 guys who talk trash about Whoopie starting in radio and then when she surprisingly walks through the door they buckle and kiss her ass as well!!
You mean you respect 2 guys that get in trouble for the whole Condoleeza comment made by a guest and then act like 2 wussies and apologize!! Talk about a pussy-bitch move!!
No one is perfect in any business. Howard used the power he had, cause he brought the bucks!! You mean to tell me that O&A wouldn't do the same? Actually, they wouldn't, because they'll NEVER reach that level of success.
"I know that this has been said over and over again but does anyone realize that the $100million is for the "Howard Stern Show" not Howard Stern the person. Geez."
Don't let your hero hear you say that. In Hoo-Hoo world it is ALL about Howard... Nothing else... and to a point he is right. NO ONE would pay a dime for The Robin show. Plus it is not like $500,000,000 is divided amongts the entire show. I imagine like 95% of that $500,000,000 goes to the Hampton on the Howie-Copter with Allison, uh I mean his girlfriend who loves him for him [snikcer snicker]. (And there is a find for his daughter's occasional stomach pumps and naked play tickets of course)
Just because people listen to the after show about the show hosted by folks from the show (WTF?!?) doesn't mean those people matter. They still talk baout, HOWARD.
Hey, I'll call a spade a spade.
I totally thought O&A kissed Donahue's ass, and I thought they kissed Whoopie's ass as well.
I'm sure some suit in corporate told them they had to apologize for the whole Condoleezza Rice thing. When the man in the suit who writes the checks tells you to, or it's your ass. Well, then you put your balls in a hat and do as your told. The very first day they were back at XM, Bob Saget was cracking Condi Rice Jokes. So take that for what it is.
But, none of these are pussy, or bitch moves.
The pussy bitch move would've been to ignore Whoopi when she showed up in studio. The pussy bitch move would've been to blow off Bill Donahue.
Instead, they kept it out in the open, for the audience to hear it.
No way in HELL Howard would've let Whoopi in the building if she showed up after he bashed the shit out of her NO FUCKING WAY.
Instead, Howard would've found a way to hide behind his boss again.
Look, I'm not here to bash Howard. As I've said before, he brought me many hours of great entertainment, and hey, I'm grateful.
But, if you've got a problem with the other guys on your station, you go head to head with them, and you settle it out in the open. You don't go BOO HOOing to the boss that they're beating up on you.
Look, I'm not saying O&A are anywhere near as much a star or a pull as Stern. I'm not stupid. Howard's been around for a Looooong time, and he's made a name for himself. Good for him, and I wish him the best of luck.
But given his punk ass behavior in the past, I wholly expect him to pull the same stunt after the merger.
And no, I don't suspect O&A would do the same thing if they had the power. Considering they're willing to deal with Whoopi or Donahue face to face tells me they're not the bitch Howard is.
If you can defend whining to the boss behind the scenes instead of confronting someone face to face on something as simple as being mentioned on the air, well as I said before I'll call a spade a spade and a bitch a bitch.
Guys that run to the boss and cry and moan are pussy bitches. Guys that face their co workers face to face with problem are men.
End of story.
Goon,
O&A constantly whimper, buckle and apologize,..to me, those are VERY bitch moves!
Howard's had many people back on whom he had fought with in the past. Some ended amicably, some..not so much. To confront O&A would just give them what they want, publicity thanks to Stern's coattails. Frankly, they're not worthy even for that!
You said it yourself "When the man in the suit who writes the checks tells you to, or it's your ass. Well, then you put your balls in a hat and do as your told." Well guess what? HOWARD was the man who "wrote the checks" because he brought in more money then the rest of the shows combined! O&A were letting things out on the their show that was reserved for Howard's show (the whole concert thing). Also, they made accusations about Howard's daughter which NONE of it was confirmed by any press (unless you count "Steppin' Out" magazine who ran with the story as O&A as their source, but then retracted it due to lack of confirmation.).
O&A do the exact same thing you claim Howard does. "All Howard's show was toward the end was a bitchfest about the FCC"... well from what I understand, O&A are doing nothing but pissing and moaning about how they're "not allowed to do their show!" Karmas a bitch, ain't it?
I'm not saying Howard's perfect. But take a look at what those two ass-clowns do on a daily basis before you put them on a pedestal and trash Howard. I actually used to like O&A when they were on in the afternoon. But after hearing the constant whining because "daddy" didn't care about them, they cried, and are STILL crying to this day. Yet they haven't proven themselves one iota. Failed in the mornings on terrestrial, low ratings on XM in comparison to Howard,..and even Bubba!!
They've reached their pinnacle, it's all downhill from here. I, for one, am glad to see it happen.
LOL, totally different. Howard's the kind of guy who would cry and moan to the teacher that somone took his lunch money instead of taking care of things himself.
Go on...Leave..I..I PARDON you....
I've heard both shows in this never-ending argument and to me they are totally different, they aren't even in the same fucking neighborhood. Because O & A spend the first 3 hours of their show on traditional radio as well as xm, they make fun of hack bits that a lot of other morning shows do, and they make them sound extra ridiculous and stupid. To me this gets old, but others seem to like it. So people hear the show and think they're hacky djs and people just don't get it. They don't understand that it's a parody. But the problem is that they're having more and more freedoms taken away from them because of the CBS lawyers, so there's only so much you can work with until you can get over to XM. The bummer is that a lot of times, because they put a lot of their energy into the CBS show, the XM portion *sometimes* seems lacking. That's not always the case though.
Some people will disagree with me but fuck you that's how I see it.
Now Howard on the other hand does a *completely* different kind of show. You got your usuals Howard, Fred, Robbin, Bobbabooey and Arty. I think I liked the show much better when Jacky was in there because the feel of the show was a bit lighter and Jacky always got made fun of and he could take it. The chemistry with all the people in the studio is completely different, and the fact that Howard still relies on things he did 10 years ago is what i think turns some people off. The thought is you can only have Captain Janks call so many tv news broadcasts and say Bobbabooey to y'all! or Howard Stern's penis and get a laugh. If you do the same thing for 10 years, it stops being funny after a while. Well, to myself and lots of other people it does but aparently, others still think that's funny. If you like that, have fun with it. Both shows have their place and I'm sure they will, post-murger one way or another. Both of them attract too many listeners to just fade away into nothingness. The fans of both shows are far too loyal to allow that to happen.
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