Listen to Sirius on the iPhone

I don't get the hype over this.... XM has been on AT&T's I phone for months. Funny how all these mags miss that... Ryan, it would have been nice to see you comment on this too.

It will be interesting to see what XM-Sirius dishes out as their corporate IPhone application come July 11 when the new 3G phone becomes available. While I don't think that Apple is as interested in becoming a broadcaster as much as Microsoft or Google might be, I would love to see Apple buy out the merged company. Apple could add all sort of pizazz to satrad.

Why would some one want to pay for sirius when there are thousands of better choices of free streaming internet radio? App's like uSirius are for those who don't know any better than to waste money on a fleeting industry who's 15 minutes of fame are just about used up.

uSirius = uCAN'TbeSirius

http://flytunes.fm/
http://www.iradio.com/
http://musicradio.com/

I'm a little surprised at the comments here. Yes, there's great content through free streaming internet radio, but I have a sirius unit, and I listen to it in my car primarily. I've attempted to use other services to stream my sirius feed to my iPhone, but none seem to work well. Now that uSirius is here, I can listen to Sirius whenever I want. What do I get from Sirius? Well, my initial draw was Howard Stern. I haven't found that streaming free on the net. I also listen to a few other "original content" type shows on Sirius, so the addition of uSirius to the iPhone is very welcomed. Aside from the occasional crash, uSirius seems to be very stable, and is now my go to app on my iPhone.

well, no one is a cool as SIRIUS satellite radio, free or not.
iPHONE and SIRIUS is a great thing and bodes of things to come.
Satellite radio is here to stay.
the government is going to make sure of that, trust me.

oh so a history of bad business decisions which has necessitated a government bailout by allowing a monopolistic merger is cool?

DOJ already ruled. By the way, it is too cool. See you later this week.

"oh so a history of bad business decisions which has necessitated a government bailout by allowing a monopolistic merger is cool?"

Actually, that does sound pretty cool now that you put it that way.

uhhh... People were using the iPhone to listen in on XM Online the day it was out. The best was when they had a caller on O&A listening from his classroom. He had to borrow a phone from his bud to call in so he could keep listening lol

The fact that it's the IPhone makes it big. The Samsung Instinct just became available, and for $130, it is one hell of a good phone. BUT: the President of Samsung didn't see fit to make a big deal of it's release at a developer's conference, didn't know or care how to create anticipation for the product, and no one was camping out outside of Sprint stores the night before it went on sale, etc. etc.

Apple KNOWS how do this right, and riding their coattails is one sure fire way to get yourself noticed.

Programs like uSirius and those like it are for internet amateurs. Those showing naiveté who don't know any better than to waste money. Internet Radio is 100x better, is the future and is available for free. uSirius is a program which dumbs down the iPhone for amateurs.

"Why would some one want to pay for sirius when there are thousands of better choices of free streaming internet radio?"

Satellite radio will have content that internet radio will not have.

"Satellite radio will have content that internet radio will not have."

Really? Like what? Sure sounds like the words of a internet amateur. Naiveté is no excuse for ignorance.

I've been listening to Internet radio for years. Unfortunately, radio programming is an art, and there is not much talent on internet radio. If someone ever figures out how to monetize it, that could change, but then you'll probably be left with an Internet version of Clear Channel.

That is the reason the NAB is so filled with fear- extinction for standard broadcast radio is just around the corner, and the AM/FM pipe's value is diminishing daily, just as print media's properties are.

In the future, most media delivery will revolve around the 4G phone.

"Satellite radio will have content that internet radio will not have."

Sirius has over $1.1 billion in long-term debt. XM has over $1.3 billion in long-term debt, some coming due in 2009, rest is due by 2013. Just how will Satellite radio pay for all this "content" you claim that internet radio doesn't already have?

Sounds like wishful thinking and supreme ignorance, on a proven failure business plan.

Mel and the NAB have quite a history together:
http://www.nab.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Press_Releases1&CONTENTID=2652&TEMPLATE=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm

http://www.allbusiness.com/services/motion-pictures/4456943-1.html

http://www.nab.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Search&template=/CM/HTMLDisplay.cfm&ContentID=6869

It's important to know and understand industry cycles and trends. Making blind claims such as:

"you'll probably be left with an Internet version of Clear Channel."

"the NAB is so filled with fear- extinction for standard broadcast radio is just around the corner"

"AM/FM pipe's value is diminishing daily, just as print media's properties are."

"In the future, most media delivery will revolve around the 4G phone."

Doesn't make one's personal thoughts the truth.

"It's important to know and understand industry cycles and trends. Making blind claims such as:"

The asshole is back. Listen and learn from an expert in the field:

Radio: Beware of Con artists
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First, the good news.

The radio industry recognizes that its stations need a presence on the Internet.

Now, the bad news. It doesn’t understand the presence its radio stations need.

Lately, we’ve been reading some bass-ackwards commentary from supposed radio “experts” comparing the web pages of newspapers to radio stations.

What they fail to comprehend is that most users aren’t won over by the jargon, imagery, photo ops, and streams from most radio web sites.

Comparing newspaper and radio sites is just plain stupid. Newspaper sites generate revenue by attracting and holding viewers. And it's done by assigning compelling content to a second medium.
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There’s that word again. Content. C-O-N-T-E-N-T.

It’s something that too many in this industry undervalue.

Garbage in, garbage out.

Stream a lackluster voice-tracked station whose playlist is chosen by two buttons – one, schedule and two, print - on line and it’ll sound just as dreadful as it does on terrestrial radio.

Radio used to be the “last great illusion” until the Internet became an essential part of our culture.

Radio, as a medium, still has an edge, since it can provide a soundtrack, information, and, done correctly, play upon one’s imagination with creative narrative and production. It can be active, passive, or both.

Even the TV networks know that they can’t depend on traditional viewers. They’ve realized the need to attract people with a number of different platforms, and the need to survey and rate those viewers.

Eventually, all TV shows will be hybrids and dependent on a web presence that digs deeper into a plot and provide opportunities for audience involvement – even in determining the direction of a show’s storyline.

But it starts with the show. If the show on television doesn’t have the goods – viewers aren’t going to go on-line for more.

Some of you will be in Minneapolis for the Conclave this weekend. Have fun. It’s one of my favorite cities.

Judging from the mood of those attending last year’s Conclave, being in radio station management has joined ice road truckers, crab fishing in the Bering Sea, and personal assistant to Naomi Campbell as the world's deadliest professions.

I’m passing on the Con this year. With budgets being what they are most of the industry people I know are passing on it, too.

You are correct, sir, in your hypothesis that you’ll hear many an “expert.” spend too much time being officious about building a successful radio web presence. You know the drill: a little cut-and-paste text here, a few photos of the jocks and station promotions there, a jock blog or two, a stream or two…. Need I continue?

Their repertoire is a bad as a Jack station’s playlist.

After they scratch out all the logical solutions to radio’s problems they go after the illogical.

You wonder why radio managers fall for these con artists until you realize that Caesar considered Brutus a good friend and loyal advisor.

What these self-proclaimed specialists won’t tell you is that net surfers view thousands of sites daily and have learned to tune most of them out.
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Even if your site is the web equivalent of a Lexus – if your stream is the equivalent of a Pinto, do you think anyone’s going to spend at-work or at-home time on it?
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Surely, another hot topic at the Con will be about getting radio streams on mobile devices. The same rule applies. Crap is crap no matter what mode of delivery you choose to use.

The irony of these radio “experts’” squalid descent into obscurity is that it’s usually during dark economic times that con artists thrive.

In reality, it’s Occam’s Razor: The simplest explanation that covers the facts is probably the right one.

Profitable sites deliver – not promise. Most radio web sites promise – but can’t deliver. It’s not what a radio station says it is that determines whether it’s successful. It’s what it does that counts.

I hate to keep bringing his name up – but look at Steve Jobs and Apple. He created a brand that went from a cult to mass appeal. Apple has evolved from a handful of graphic artists that proudly announced that their creations were “Made on a Mac” to mass millions that proudly boaster their iMacs, iPods and iPhones.

Here’s what you won’t hear from those chicken you-know-whats at the Con.

Radio is failing because of the poor relationship it fashioned with younger demos.

The rise of hyperconnectivity and interactivity must be recognized by radio. To endure, it will have to deliver a standout quality product to create excitement to translate into time spent listening.

Programming functionality is the only component that can bring listeners back to radio. But the longer it takes for terrestrial radio to improve, the less likely consumers will return and trust the medium.
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Spare me the “things have changed” line about radio listening allegiance. Tell that to the millions that pay to hear radio by subscribing to XM or Sirius.

Because of proliferating social networks, chat rooms, and blogs, it’s easy for radio listeners find alternatives. Illegally downloading music along with Internet and satellite radio listening is supplanting terrestrial radio as a source for new music.

Radio doesn’t need re-branding. The product needs re-inventing. Start there.

And don’t get conned at the Con.

Max,

We all know your rude, crude, blind and ignorant. Thanks for again proving it. Now we know your not smart enough, nor have enough thoughts in your head for that type of post, perhaps giving credit to the person who wrote it will remove all doubt that you lifted it from another blind, ignorant fanatic.

"Radio doesn’t need re-branding. The product needs re-inventing"
Funny your last lifted line is exactly what radio is doing. Content is coming back, programming is coming back and the internet, along with the future of radio, HD Radio is being used as the technology to get product to consumers.

Keep going Max you'll again be proven the blind, ignorant fool you are, same Max ignorance just a new thread.

Max,

Will thinking about it, it's very fitting that your interested in programs like uSirius and others like it made for internet amateurs. Those like you showing naiveté who don't know any better than to waste money paying for satradio on the internet while, internet radio is 100x better, is the future and is available for free. uSirius is a program which dumbs down the iPhone for amateurs, perfect for you Max.

Just when the site was getting back to normal......Oh well.

"Oh well" is right....
Max why are you still posting here? You proved your lack of class, you more than proved your lack of knowledge, and you also chose to take shots at Ryan and Orbitcast.

"This is the last time I am responding to you a little turd like you. When Ryan wants to restore the quality of his site, I'll be back. It's his to lose. If you had any brains or decency, you would just STFU and crawl back under the rock you came from.
Have a nice day, putz."
Posted by: Max | June 14, 2008 9:19 PM

"You proved your lack of class"

Pot, meet kettle.

This is HUGE. I will gladly pay a paltry $6.99 /mo.for the Sirius content. It's worth much more, in my opinion. Most of what passes for "radio" on the internet that I've heard so-far, is nothing but crap.

This is HUGE. I will gladly pay a paltry $6.99 /mo.for the Sirius content. It's worth much more, in my opinion. Most of what passes for "radio" on the internet that I've heard so-far, is nothing but crap.

"More gooder"

Ryan is the biggest O&A fan out of all of us.
Ron and Fez 12 - 3.

The critical factor here, that is totally missed is that you HAVE TO HACK YOUR iPHone, which is no easy task and when you re-sync, guess what goes backed to being locked. THe fact that there is no mention of the legimate XM application that will be released with the 2.0 iPhone software upgrade shows the bias.

"The critical factor here, that is totally missed is that you HAVE TO HACK YOUR iPHone, which is no easy task and when you re-sync, guess what goes backed to being locked."

After July 11, that may not be the case.

Open source code. Get it, fix it, strike an agreement with apple, sell mobile subscriptions, double revenue; into the black. Easy.

Hell. I can listen to my XM on my Verizon Wireless LG Voyager via Orb. Works great SOUNDS Great! Can't get PAD data but no biggie. Funny this type of stuff is a break through once it hits the iPhone. HATE AT&T! HATE GSM!

You know what sounds diabolical? Suppose they (XM & Sirius) get authorized software from the new Apple store, and the IPhone allows "click and save" just like the Inno & Helix models, turning this into the greatest music delivery system around.

That would be enough to bury US Electronics for good. And almost everyone else.

Hmm... hear songs on Sirius, like the song, pay for it on iTunes.

I'm not Apple fanboy, but this equals money.

"Hmm... hear songs on Sirius, like the song, pay for it on iTunes."

Oh you mean copy what HD Radio does?

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