I normally don't like covering anything about terrestrial radio ratings - mostly because I feel the Arbitron ratings system has more holes in it than swiss cheese. But for the XM folks, this news points to increased exposure on a highly targeted audience. Whether you're a fan of them or not, the fact is that O&A on terrestrial provides daily brand awareness to XM Satellite Radio as they have free reign to plug XM.
Anyway, back to the ratings.
In the just released Arbitrends:
WYSP/Philadelphia bumped up in Persons 12+ (from 1.5 to 2.4), Persons 18-34 (from 1.8 to 4.1), Persons 25-54 (from 1.9 to 3.2) and Men 18+ (from 2.3 to 3.9).
In WFNY (formally WXRK Krock) in New York City, the Opie & Anthony Show doubled the David Lee Roth's ratings - which admittedly wasn't too hard to do - with Persons 12+ (1.1 - 2.3), Persons 18-34 (1.4 - 4.2), Persons 25-54 (1.6 - 3.4) and Men 18-34 (1.9 - 4.0).
Keep in mind that these Arbitrend ratings are only for the first month of on terrestrial radio.
[via FMQB]
UPDATE: WBCN/Boston Arbitrends are in, and here's the breakdown:
Persons 12+ (from 1.6 to 3.4), Persons 18-34 (from 2.3 to 6.7), Persons 25-54 (from 1.5 to 4.1), and Men 18-34 (from 1.9 to 5.3).
arbitron rocks
one person effects the numbers that much they must reissue a market
from june,21st via radio and records
http://www.radioandrecords.com/Newsroom/2006_06_21/arbitronto.asp
Diary entries reflecting 72 hours of continuous listening were initially interpreted as reflecting shorter -- though still substantial -- listening for Clear Channel Rocker KMOD, which saw a 6.5 12+ share in the originally released ratings report for Tulsa. Therefore, the diary has now been declared ineligible for inclusion in the sample, and Arbitron will issue new winter ratings for the market on June 26 at noon CT. Revised spring 2006 Phase II Arbitrends for Tulsa will also be made available at that time.
The diary in question is tied to week No. 11 of the winter 2006 survey and was returned from an 18-year-old male in Creek County, OK. Therefore, KMOD's Persons 18-34 audience estimates "are likely to be significantly affected," Arbitron says.
Arbitron does not suspect that the diary came from a media-affiliated household, or that the diarykeeper was inappropriately influenced by a media-affiliated individual.
— Adam Jacobson, R&R Management/Marketing/Sales Editor
Just proves that O&A are failing. Tell 'em Robin!
O&A are indeed more entertaining than David Lee Roth.
Ryan,
Do you know the difference in ratings from now and Oct?
I personally think O & A are the worse I have ever heard. DLR was much better and I suspect after the next arbitron release CBS will give them an ultimatum. I bought my XM for music, not lame dj's
"Just proves that O&A are failing. Tell 'em Robin!"
LOL
crowing because you double DLR numbers?
sure thought they would have done better being they are all uber and all
so in NY they are a 2.1 vs 6-8-10's...long way to go boss
Phi 2.4 vs 8-10's?
Bos 3.4 vs 5-8's?
That's damn good for just one month. I think it'll take less time for O&A to climb to #1 than it did for Stern.
(Thank you Lord Howard for inventing the internet so I could post this)
Does a pest membership come with Wonder Woman deflector bracelets, or it is just an inferiority complex issue???
"Does a pest membership come with Wonder Woman deflector bracelets, or it is just an inferiority complex issue???
I thought it was just morbid obesity and lifelong virginity...
And let's not forget the facination with pat battles, sticker stops and a homoerotic obsession with two middle-aged "boys".
Holy shit, Stern fans get worse every day. Grow up & stop sticking your noses in others' business.
Also, XM_SUB, it's obvious you're taste isn't for talk radio. Good for you. Obviously your point-of-view is pretty far from correct or else they wouldn't be one of the top channels on XM.
As for the most important and only issue that matters here, O&A did very well for their first month. Getting those ratings in their first month back is a huge step in the right direction. Anyone who denies that is a complete moron & is either in denial or doesn't know shit about radio.
With all the stale bullshit talk about how O&A stole all of howards fans, you would expect the numbers to be on par with what they were in December, right?
That's why I asked Ryan. As for it being a good step, yes its good that their ratings are higher than they were when DLR was on but I'm pretty sure O&A don't want to be compared to him in any way.
I don't think there was ever a question that their ratings would be higher now than it was. Not even the retardedly delusional.
Bud, anyone can bump up ratings compared to DLR...that morning show was terrible. Anything with any bit of humor is better and will affect the ratings. Now what happens if this is where they stay? What happens if the first month is all they get? Are all of you telling me that it is possible that more people will move over to listen to them as the months pass on? Aren't you the same people that said the Stern Effect would only last a month?
O&A are good for terrestrial because there is nothing else on. This does nothing for XM though; yes there is a constant ad for XM on terrestrial, but this isn't doing anything for them. They are still losing each month to Sirius in subscriber aquisistions (and the second quarter has historically been XM's best next to 4th).
O&A are not as big as you dream them to be. There channel is not one of the most popular channels on XM, and outside of your world (and the world of all us Orbitcast posters) O&A don't truly exist. There fan base is not that big. And they haven't done nearly enough to be a household name. That takes years of work, more than they have put in.
In five years, Howard may retire, and by that time O&A will have been working hard to create a brand image for themselves, and maybe they will be the next HS, but until that day comes, this was a bad move on XM's part.
No, the numbers should be NO WHERE near as close as Howard's numbers in December. A lot of people stopped listening to the Free FM stations. Once you lose an audience, it isn't easy to get them back.
A lot of people just go to their second favorite morning choice and stay there. People are inherently lazy in their listening habits. It takes something to jar them into changing the station (studies back this up).
For them to have doubled DLR's numbers in month one is spectacular. The O&A deal was done & they were on the air two days later. There was little promotion other than the news. Now the CBS are putting advertising up, ratings should keep increasing. Word of mouth also should continue to help.
You should also realize it's been four years since O&A were on terrestrial radio. You can't expect their old audience to jump as soon as they hear about them being back. Staying power is shitty in radio, which sucks, but is a fact.
The real test will be in the coming months. There's no reason to expect the ratings will not continue to rise as this quick jump in their debut month is a terrific sign.
you would expect the numbers to be on par with what they were in December, right?
No.
No, the numbers should be NO WHERE near as close as Howard's numbers in December. A lot of people stopped listening to the Free FM stations. Once you lose an audience, it isn't easy to get them back.
A lot of people just go to their second favorite morning choice and stay there. People are inherently lazy in their listening habits. It takes something to jar them into changing the station (studies back this up).
For them to have doubled DLR's numbers in month one is spectacular. The O&A deal was done & they were on the air two days later. There was little promotion other than the news. Now CBS is putting advertising up, ratings should keep increasing.
You should also realize it's been four years since O&A were on terrestrial radio. You can't expect their old audience to jump as soon as they hear about them being back. Staying power is shitty in radio, which sucks, but is a fact.
The real test will be in the coming months. There's no reason to expect the ratings will not continue to rise as this quick jump in their debut month is a terrific sign.
I also want to add that I'm not some O&A pest that believes everything he hears. While I enjoy their show, I call bullshit when I hear it, no matter the source. I'm bias, but not blind at all.
Also, I'm not ignorant in radio. I'm a junior in broadcasting & have worked at four terrestrial radio stations (still doing so). I've learned quite a bit more in that time & continue to do so as I'm really passionate about radio & television. So my opinions aren't just of the average fan, but of someone who has experience and knows a little something.
Keep in mind here that these are ARBITREND numbers meaning that they include the past 3 months of the stations. Correct me if I am wrong here (and I am not) but those 3 months are 2/3 DLR's ratings and 1/3 O&A. So yes, those are great numbers for a couple of guys who were not supposed to be on the air again.
You're absolutely correct MarkS. They doubled the ratings, and only one-third of that new rating is O&A. The other two-thirds are DLR.
Damn bud light, once you hear someone of a different opinion you jump on they're ass and up they're ass as far as you can go. your a true asshole. Apparently you are the newest insider in radio ratings. you know all the trends, how long it takes to get a stable audience. fuck why don't you start your writing for the new york times? Your as watered-down as your name.
As far as o&a, they will do just fine in the ratings. With xm behind them, their force for advertisement is a huge plus for the growth of their show. i hate them
THEM:
You can't take half of a sentence to answer a question.
BudLight/MarkS:
I am talking about all the nonsence I've read in these comment sections since the return of O&A to free radio. It was intended to be a sarcastic remark. Your background isn't nessesary to know and see that Roth was unlistenable and the audience wasn't going to stick around to hear it. That's why it dropped from 8 to 1.8 from December to January.
Now, you have to look at the fact that the 3 cities whose numbers were released are O&A's 3 biggest fanbases 4 years ago. 4 years isn't that long considering your core base is 18-34. I still remember the day they got kicked off the air, like it was yesterday(and we're already 50% done 2k6 for god's sakes. Time is flying). During the afternoon drivetime, they crushed the competition. They have HUGE name recognition in those markets, not to mention the biggest and best competition they have is now on a pay medium.
O&A doubling up a 1.8 in Philadelphia, when the benchmark set only a quarter ago for that station is a 8+, isn't nearly as "spectacular" as you're making it out to be. I wish that didn't sound as harsh as it probably sounds to O&A lovers, but its the truth.
a good show + zero competition on free radio + following a terrible show that made the quarter numbers plummet + being on 3 of the top rock/talk radio stations in the country(who also happen to be your 3 biggest markets before you get kicked off the air) + a free medium =
Expected. Not spectacular.
If these numbers say anything, its that O&A are entertaining enough to hear but not nessesarily pay for.
I don't think nearly as bad about O&A as I do some of the fans of O&A. Blind loyalty to anything is lame. The ovary and assfanny jokes are as dumb as the "hoo hoo invented our exsistence" jokes in my eyes.
The only thing that made me lose a bit of respect(besides how tough Opie acts behind a microphone) is the fact that they went back to free radio. I had no problems with their show on XM. Good for them. Go somewhere where you can entertain people that want to listen to you without the FCC or the religious right getting you kicked off the air or fined out of a job. To go back to the company that took away your livelyhood and pretend that everything is hunkey dory and that you're god now that all of your good competition moved on is a bit selloutish/cowardly in my eyes. Sure you get more listeners but you basically check your soul at the front door.
FaFaFluFly, anyone with any decent fucking knowledge could tell you what I did. The problem is, most people around here know only what they hear on the radio & believe it to be true. Or believe whatever the cocksucker they listen to tells them to be true.
As for you calling me an asshole, I take that as a compliment coming from your kind.
Schimshamity, the reason there numbers are spectacular is the rough shape CBS was reduced to before their arrival. While you may not have doubted O&A ability to draw, many people did just that. That's been proven wrong with the opening numbers. And to be honest, I'm not sure most people expected their first month to go so well. Maybe they should have, but there are a lot of people who have bias & laughed at their return.
As for your clever deduction that this means they are only clever enough to listen and not subscribe to, that's real strong talk when no one can back it up. Fact is, no one but XM knows how popular their channel is exactly & how many people listen. I'd love to find out exactly how many XM subscibers listen to O&A versus how many Sirius listen to Stern. Sadly, I don't see that day coming soon.
The closing to this shit will never come. I agree the shit between the two shows need to stop. The Stern fanatics will always blindly follow him & start bullshit each time O&A's name pops up. Same goes for some of the O&A pests popping up & sticking their nose in the business of every Stern post. The merry-go-round will continue even though this became stale five months ago.
It is definitely difficult to get an audience back to a station once you've chased them away. Having said that, given how low the numbers sank with DLR, it's hardly surprising that O&A would improve on what he got.
Under these circumstances, the early numbers really don't prove anything, one way or the other. The REAL test will be how O&A do over the long haul.
I don't think CBS will expect them to do Stern-type numbers so the real question is what will management consider a "success" on O&A's part?
For the record, I say this as a former morning drive radio DJ and talk show host in several markets, including San Diego.
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Can these guys do ANYTHING without mentioning Howard? Howard goes WEEKS without mentioning those two while everytime I hear a show they either mention him or have a fake stooge spit on their manager!
>>>As for your clever deduction that this means they are only clever enough to listen and not subscribe to, that's real strong talk when no one can back it up.
It is pretty easily backed up. You don't need a degree in broadcasting to understand what happened when XM hired O&A. Remember when O&A moved to XM and they charged a dollar extra for the show? Then a few months later they had to charge extra for al XM subs? You don't have to be clever to understand that O&A didn't have as big of an impact as XM hoped.
CBS was desperate and paid XM, who was also desperate, a boatload of money for O&A's help. If O&A were making a boatload of money for XM already, they wouldn't have needed to make the deal.
Schimshamity, if you really believe that drivel you posted, I feel sorry for you. Stop listening to everything Howard Stern & his goofs say. They're not failures on XM... Holy s.
Whatever moron. Call it what you want but it doesn't have much to do with Stern. O&A fans ignore obvious problems(like fucking selling out to free radio for starters) and call everyone zombies out of the other side of their mouths.
I call upping the subscription fee less than a year after they started charging for the O&A program a failure on XM and O&A's part. Maybe its more of XM's fault for thinking O&A could drive subscriptions. They learned very quickly that they couldn't so they decided to charge everyone that extra fee.
Use those smarts your parents paid for and learn to read between the lines sometime.
"I call upping the subscription fee less than a year after they started charging for the O&A program a failure on XM and O&A's part."
It's actually called parity.
Oddly enough people tend to feel that something that costs lest is an inferior product, especially with a luxury item like satellite radio. By matching Sirius' prices it made it easier for consumers to compare and choose.
I call upping the subscription fee less than a year after they started charging for the O&A program a failure on XM and O&A's part. Maybe its more of XM's fault for thinking O&A could drive subscriptions. They learned very quickly that they couldn't so they decided to charge everyone that extra fee.
Use those smarts your parents paid for and learn to read between the lines sometime.
Posted by: Schimshamity
Then what do you call XM renewing their contracts again?
O&A's move off subscription based had nothing to do with failure you dumb c-sucker. By exposing them to the entire XM audience, they became the most popular show on the platform.
And to put the subscription hike on their backs shows your true bias. Sirius was already fucking higher than them, so it was an obvious move. Since there is always someone to blame, and you love the fucking slippery slope, let's blame Sirius' upcoming rate hike on Stern's salary.
Also, stop with the fucking "O&A sold out" crap. I fucking HATE that argument since in most cases it's used to only try to sustain ones argument who has brought nothing to the table (IE: "Why don't you like Avenged Sevenfold anymore?" - "They fucking sold out man!") Shut the hell up & slit your wrists.
Success does not equal selling out. Getting where they hoped to one day to be in their careers is not selling out. Come up with a better argument and maybe you'll look halfway intelligent.
Oh, just a little tid bit to end. You want to know why most Stern fans are called zombies? Because they fucking are zombies who listen to everything the hook-nosed jew says. The sad thing is that there's a lot of O&A fans who are the same way. If it looks like a rat & smells like a rat... well.
Well, miller fucking lite, they did sell out. i thought they were exclusive? How do you know they are the most popular show on xm? where is the proof of that? To say that people bitch of o&a selling out because they can't bring anything to the table is horse shit. Your bbbboys haven't done anything to prove anyones respect. Current shitty ratings that you fags spin as good is ridiculous. espn radio gets better ratings.
O&a aren't failures on xm, they failed xm's predictions. You fags think stern is a failure and didn't draw any of his fans to pay radio. and you go by that peace of shit bridge ratings which, no matter how badly you think it is, it not facts, just estimates.
"And to put the subscription hike on their backs shows your true bias. Sirius was already fucking higher than them, so it was an obvious move. "
Yeah, You're making a lot of sense.
I'm XM. I'm selling a product cheaper than my competitor. What should I do??? I KNOW, RAISE MY PRICES TOO! Because that's what some scrub junior in broadcast school says we should do. We must stop selling our product for cheaper immediately. The fact that not as many people wanted to pay an extra fee for O&As station has nothing to do with it.
Do you have any idea how fucking retarded sounding you are? FaFa said it right. "O&a aren't failures on xm, they failed xm's predictions." Period. Get your head out of your ass.
Oh and, you're right fuckface, they didn't sell out. How could anyone possibly think they sold out?!?!? They went from an uncensored, exclusive show with minimal commercial breaks to a.) the company that kicked them off the air b.) replace the normal show with a sliced up censored show in which 20 minutes out of every hour are commercial breaks.
I'm sure they would much rather be on free radio mincing words and skipping bits that they can't play until later. I'm also sure their move back to free radio was just for the pests and had nothing to do with the bags of cash they recieved to compromise their intergrity.
Kill yourself, please.
FaFaFluFly, you're an idiot & added nothing to this topic. Congrats.
Schimshamity, you're a tool & don't fucking get anything obviously.
Them raising rates was simple economics. Nothing more. Then again, trying to explain that to you would do no good because you're fucking bias is so overwhelming that you couldn't possibly see past it. Take those baby blue-blinders off.
And I hate to tell you, but terrestrial radio still is more imporant & more valuable to be on than satellite radio. That's why they didn't sell out you fucking idiots. As great as satellite radio is, it isn't the "place to be" yet. Ask Rush or the majority of top radio talents.
So yes, the smart/obvious move is terrestrial. Bigger audience = more success. That's the goal in life. Not to cater to some small fucking audience. The majority is who you go after dumbasses.
Also, the show on terrestrial hasn't changed shit either. Then again, it takes being an actual fan of the show & having first-hand knowledge to know that.
Try again someday when you let your bias stop blinding you from common sense. Then again, common sense doesn't seem to be a quality Stern fans possess.
You really have no idea what you're talking about. For starters, Rush doesn't have a comedy show you shitstain. BIG difference. Censored comedy ESPECIALLY on the radio is old and busted. You should know that since you've apparently been sucking a radio cock for a while. Taking an uncensored show to free radio is not an upgrade from an ENTERTAINMENT standpoint.
You say it hasn't changed the show. So you ignore every time they use the dump button and everytime they say, "we con't play that now". You may not be listening to the dumps because you have XM but the majority of their listeners are listening to a half-assed show. That's not just because Howard is on Sirius. The last few months of the FM show were incredibly annoying when they'd get dumped out of everything they said.
If the Sopranos moved to FOX on Sundays, only morons like you would think it was an upgrade because they got bags of cash to do it. If you don't think its the same, just hit yourself with a fucking hammer until you do.
Its okay. At this point, I KNOW you don't believe your own bullshit. My request for you to kill yourself still stands.
And your looking at this topic in a none biased view, right? Typical o&a zombie. What do you add to these posts? shoveling o&a shit down everyones throat. The radio talents are signing with satellite radio all the time. Sirius has new talk show hosts on exclusive content all the time. As an xm fan, you should root for testical radio failure. Your fucking bias toward o&a wanting them to have all the good ratings has clouded your watered down little brain.
Terrestrial radio will always be around. Rooting for it to fail is like rooting for taxes to be done away with. The "talent" satellite radio keeps signing aren't radio guys. Little weekly shows by Bob Dylan aren't nearly as appealing as the popular radio guys like Rush Limbaugh (no matter the type of show).
The one thing satellite radio & we, the fans, can hope for are that its popularity continues to rise & the top radio people feel it is a viable option to go to. Even Stern wouldn't have considered it had it not been for $500 million & being near the end of his career.
Until then, brushing terrestrial radio to the side is a stupid thing to do. My like for XM doesn't blind me into believing satellite radio is close to overtaking or even being legit competition right now. Instead, satellite needs to worry about surviving & making profits first.
Anonymous Coward (which is a very appropriate name), you act as if they're entire show is now censored. Even before the move to terrestrial they did what they do now on the terrestrial show. The only thing missing is the "shit, fuck, and cunts." That doesn't bother me that I hear less cursing per day.
The content they can't do on the terrestrial show is still done on XM, which makes the move fine by me. As long as the XM portion of the show balances the act out, your argument is void.
No its not ONLY "fucks shits and cunts". I turned it on today during a commercial. Literally 5 seconds in, Opie was trying to read a news story:
"Man awarded 400k from doctors after trying......Can I say this???....a penile enlargement that kept him up for 10 years"
A simple news story can't be said because of "penis" and "erection". The fact that he had to try and skate around the subject is nonsence and exactly my point. You can deal with it and think nothing is wrong because you're an O&A cocksucker, but I don't have to. Not having to is the better option for people who don't suck cock. That's me.
That has nothing to do with Howard, idiot. I can listen to 10 other stations on Sirius where the DJs are talking like adults. You don't mind being talked to like a child, I do.
If you're a free radio loser too, that's fine. No one said that free would be less popular than pay anything. No one is disputing that. I'd buy 50 XM systems before turning back to free radio. That's the difference between me and you, kid. You fucking drone.
Wow, all of that and it can be reduced to this summary:
- O&A have to avoid violating FCC violations.
- O&A fans all suck cock. You don't.
- You don't like being talked to like a child.
- You hate free radio.
Good job. Want a lollipop little boy for posting so much grown up stuff?
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Roughly the increase in all of their markets that means they kept all of DLR's listeners and for every one of those listeners 2 more jumped on...the ading hasn't even begun yet...TRUST ME...those 20 some million Stern listeners will find out a GOOD morning show is there again and they will come flocking...next month im betting a 150% increase in all markets then a 140% then a 130% then they will have more listeners than Stern had.
BTW stern zombies...O&A talk to more than 20x the people Howard does and its only the first week people.only the first week..
ENJOY AUGUST, SHIT DICKS
- O&A have to avoid violating FCC violations.
Didn't have to 3 months ago. I guess the show hasn't changed. I guess that point I made and you keep ignoring or pretending doesn't exist.
- O&A fans all suck cock. You don't.
No. YOU suck O&A's cock. There are plenty of non-dick riders out there, I'm sure.
- You don't like being talked to like a child.
Nope. I'd rather be allowed to hear things as they are. Sorry?
- You hate free radio.
Yes. And you think its wonderful? Awesome.
- BTW stern zombies...O&A talk to more than 20x the people Howard does and its only the first week people.only the first week..
First week of what? Let me see if I get this right...:
ABC primetime shows have better ratings than HBO, therefore, ABC is better.
The local soup kitchen has more customers than Le Bec Fin, therefore, the local soup kitchen is better.
Public Transportation has more passengers than my car, therefore public transportation is better.
Your inferiority complex is unbelievably adorable you guys. O&A will one day be able to sustain a pay audience, now just isn't the time for them yet. With pests like yourselves, they'll be able to go exclusive again, don't worry. Oh wait, I'm sorry, exclusivity isn't good for the show. Free listeners are!!!!
hmmm 800% in West Palm
Opie and Anthony suck. If you doubt that, then I challenge to listen to one day of their show end to end. You'll see. There is no chance in hell people are going to listen to this once they realize what it is. There is absolutely zero possibility of these guys getting anywhere near #1 no matter what, because they suck.
Dan ... quick question.
If O & A suck ... what has the 'Kind of All Media' done in the last 5 years ... 10, even ... that makes him so much better?
Having porn stars ride motorized dildos to orgasm?
Talk about Beth till you want to claw the skin from your face in boredom?
Listen to Robin cackle at his every word?
The creative bits that he and Fred put together YEARS ago are what made him popular in the first place ... they worked on them, and they were indeed funny.
We more or less listen to Howard give a day to day account of his life ... with a few gag lines thrown in here and there ... and the porn star of the moment as a guest .... and that's great radio?
Ooops ... I forgot.
Howard invented 'great radio' ... with bits that pushed the censorship envelope, and took him to the top (stuff Imus was doing in the early 70's ... who ripped off who?) ... where is that 'great radio', today?
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Mike
Hi Mike.
www.sirius.com
listen for 3 days for free. Find out for yourself.
Opie and anthony suck, thats why they are gone from XM. Alot of people who dont listent to howard prbably just cant afford sirius. If howard sucks so bad why did he just get 500 million? if opie and anthony are so great why do they barley make shit? i think their pay speaks for its self. do good, make alot, do poor, make little.
Opie and Anthonys ratings suck...They're old news, Sterns ratings are unbelievable but he to is old news... In New York Radio today, if you're not listening to JV AND ELVIS, THE DOGHOUSE on 92.3 FREE FM, than you are pretty stupid because they are the best thing to happen to talk radio since Stern. They beat Stern in Radio Mornings in San Francisco for 7 years now they are stuck behind these two washed up homos Opie and Anthony.
9am- Noon 92.3 FREE FM- The DOGHOUSE
Noon - 3:00 NICK DIPAULO...A GREAT NEW SHOW.
So stop living in the past Opie and Anthony fans, and Stern fans stop paying for something you can get for free and keep it locked on 92.3 for the DOGHOUSE....
DOGHOUSE!!! WHaaaT?!
Notice how O&A had to kiss JV and Elvis ass. Proves how JV and Elvis own O&A DOGHOUSE WHA WHA WHA WHAT!!!
I tried the JV and Elvis show. It's basically unlistenable. You have to be tuned in to their humor, I guess, but they sound like every other wacky morning show. It's cookie cutter radio. Try to understand, loyalty to a radio show is meaningless patriotism. If you like 'em, you like 'em, period. But in the world of innovation, Wolfman Jack, Imus, Howard and O&A stand apart from the rest. They are non-formulaic and in a class of their own. One day, they will all disappear. That's the way it is. Hopefully, a new innovator will replace them. At the moment, JV & Elvis are not there. Maybe someday if they get it together.
Howard STern is way better regardless of whatever the rating are, what are their ratings in Las Vegas?? 0.0.
I'm guessing O&A's upward ratings can be partly attributed to Imus leaving. A longtime Imus (as well as Stern listener) I starting to tune them in on Directv in the morning, mainly out of my disdain for Sharpton, Al Roker and political correctness. I'm happy I did. They're entertaining but I never would have bothered otherwise.
So time has told the sad tale. What are the ratings for WYSP today? Oh it seems they were dropped abruptly on 10/23/07 in favor of music hmmmm. Well surely WXRK is seeing ratings gold oh, a 1.7 you say, well they do dominate the bottom of morning drive time. Lets see, they had about 29 stations at the height of their glorious return now that number has dwindled to 15. O&A are certainly unique they expand by contracting and the can suck & blow at the same time, incredible. With CBS recently resigning them for a full 12 months you know the boys are doing great! I mean they’re doing David Lee Roth numbers for a fraction of what CBS paid Diamond Dave. What a bargain!