Following one of the best FCC filings I've ever read, Pioneer held a myriad of meetings with the Commission, on June 5th, outlining their opposition to iBiquity's proposal that HD Radio be forced into satellite radio receivers."[iBiquity's] condition would limit which radio component suppliers' products be designed into radios, granting some form of oligopoly to iBiquity and component `manufacturers that incorporate iBiquity technology," wrote Pioneer in their latest filing. "This could yield predatory practices on the part of the technology vendors."
Pionner's best comment follows...
"Furthermore, existing AM/FM/HD components have poorer AM/FM reception capability than the existing AM/FM devices," the company added. "This condition would have the effect of decreasing AM/FM tuning performance, while at the same time significantly increasing consumer prices (even for consumers uninterested in HD Radio)."
Of course, iBiquity held it's own meeting with the Commission the following day, explaining that they don't support U.S. Electronics' proposal for open access.
When a manufacturer like Pioneer - which sells HD Radio devices - comes out with such vehement opposition to a proposal, and at the same time, iBiquity opposes a free market proposal such as open device access. You have to question, is it the public, or the private interest that iBiquity is looking out for?
[View FCC Filings: 1, 2, 3 (PDF)]
Should be obvious that if Pioneer is the only one fighting, they must be afraid they will stop getting kickbacks from the satrad manufacturers. They better watch out, or Pioneer may bite the hand that feeds them once satrad goes bell up.
No to "merge" monopoly.
Another great find and twist to the entire merger game. If the deal goes through everyone wants a piece of the pie, but if not we don't want anything to do with you. This thing is be granted and it's only a matter of time now. To much is going on to deny. This will be great for the consumer and give them better choices and pricing tiers. FCC wants the tiers and so do I as a consumer. More content for me at a better price! I win! Only need one sub soon!
Yes to Merger and consumer choice!
Sounds to me like you just want to see satrad gone and fuck everyone else.
Another great find and twist to the entire merger game. If the deal goes through everyone wants a piece of the pie, but if it doesn't we don't want anything to do with you. This merger will be granted and it's only a matter of time now. To much is going on to deny. This will be great for the consumer and gives them better choices and pricing tiers. FCC wants the tiers and so do I as a consumer. More content for me at a better price! I win! Only need one sub soon!
Yes to Merger and consumer choice!
“HD Radio on the Offense”
"But after an investigation of HD Radio units, the stations playing HD, and the company that owns the technology; and some interviews with the wonks in DC, it looks like HD Radio is a high-level corporate scam, a huge carny shill... All the major radio players, such as Clear Channel Communications, are iBiquity investors. Which means Clear Channel is paying itself for the right to broadcast, and every mom-and-pop station that wants to go digital also has pay the big boys. Nice setup!"
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/2007-03-07/music/hd-radio-on-the-offense
"Radio: Ponzi's back!"
"In 1918, we had Charles Ponzi. Ninety years later, we have Peter 'Sgt. Bilk-o' Ferrara. Schemes. From Ponzi to HD Radio. Ibiquity has the license and collects the fees. The HD Radio Alliance, which Sgt. Bilk-o runs, does the fast-talkin’, slow walkin’ hype. Right? Like the other schemes, the HD Radio edition begins with a hard-sell sales pitch to hook you in and establish the product. Right?"
http://gormanmediablog.blogspot.com/2008/03/radio-ponzis-back_27.html
"RAIN: Consumers, Wall Street Not Buying HD"
"There is no apparent revenue model for HD Radio. So what's the play here? There doesn’t seem to be one."
http://tinyurl.com/3cqnyq
StrubleiBiquity/HD Alliance/NAB are scammers!
Should be obvious that you are a fraud, a lair and you absolutely have no reason to be here! HD radio fan boys want free rides while HD radio offers no substance! meanwhile sat radio offers more for less price after this merger! and your stupid opinion about higher prices is PHONY!!!! your opinions add nothing to this forum and you should be kicked out for imitating a sat radio subscriber....you are absolutely pathetic and have no life!
none of your posts make NO SENSe!!!
and your HD radio posts are awful! so what if ESPN has an HD-2 station!
WTF does it mean to people with an AM ESPN affiliate stupid! there is NO HD-2,3,4, etc. on AM radio....BUT YOU WONT SAY THAT BECUASE YOU WANT TO DELIBERATELY LIE TO SAT RAD PEOPLE SO YOU THINK THEY JUMP SHIP ON AN AWFUL PRODUCT....RATHER I HOPE YOU JUMP SHIP SO WE CAN STOP SEEING THESE REDICULOUS POSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES to "merge"
only a tool from the NAB would oppose a merger!
Should be obvious that you are a fraud, a lair and you absolutely have no reason to be here! HD radio fan boys want free rides while HD radio offers no substance! meanwhile sat radio offers more for less price after this merger! and your stupid opinion about higher prices is PHONY!!!! your opinions add nothing to this forum and you should be kicked out for imitating a sat radio subscriber....you are absolutely pathetic and have no life!
none of your posts make NO SENSe!!!
and your HD radio posts are awful! so what if ESPN has an HD-2 station!
WTF does it mean to people with an AM ESPN affiliate stupid! there is NO HD-2,3,4, etc. on AM radio....BUT YOU WONT SAY THAT BECUASE YOU WANT TO DELIBERATELY LIE TO SAT RAD PEOPLE SO YOU THINK THEY JUMP SHIP ON AN AWFUL PRODUCT....RATHER I HOPE YOU JUMP SHIP SO WE CAN STOP SEEING THESE REDICULOUS POSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES to "merge"
only a tool from the NAB would oppose a merger!
Should be obvious that you are a fraud, a lair and you absolutely have no reason to be here! HD radio fan boys want free rides while HD radio offers no substance! meanwhile sat radio offers more for less price after this merger! and your stupid opinion about higher prices is PHONY!!!! your opinions add nothing to this forum and you should be kicked out for imitating a sat radio subscriber....you are absolutely pathetic and have no life!
none of your posts make NO SENSe!!!
and your HD radio posts are awful! so what if ESPN has an HD-2 station!
WTF does it mean to people with an AM ESPN affiliate stupid! there is NO HD-2,3,4, etc. on AM radio....BUT YOU WONT SAY THAT BECUASE YOU WANT TO DELIBERATELY LIE TO SAT RAD PEOPLE SO YOU THINK THEY JUMP SHIP ON AN AWFUL PRODUCT....RATHER I HOPE YOU JUMP SHIP SO WE CAN STOP SEEING THESE REDICULOUS POSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES to "merge"
only a tool from the NAB would oppose a merger!
Should be obvious that you are a fraud, a lair and you absolutely have no reason to be here! HD radio fan boys want free rides while HD radio offers no substance! meanwhile sat radio offers more for less price after this merger! and your stupid opinion about higher prices is PHONY!!!! your opinions add nothing to this forum and you should be kicked out for imitating a sat radio subscriber....you are absolutely pathetic and have no life!
none of your posts make NO SENSe!!!
and your HD radio posts are awful! so what if ESPN has an HD-2 station!
WTF does it mean to people with an AM ESPN affiliate stupid! there is NO HD-2,3,4, etc. on AM radio....BUT YOU WONT SAY THAT BECUASE YOU WANT TO DELIBERATELY LIE TO SAT RAD PEOPLE SO YOU THINK THEY JUMP SHIP ON AN AWFUL PRODUCT....RATHER I HOPE YOU JUMP SHIP SO WE CAN STOP SEEING THESE REDICULOUS POSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES to "merge"
only a tool from the NAB would oppose a merger!
LISTEN ARE WE GONNA LET THIS NAB SCUM BAG TAKE OVER OUR SAT RAD SITE POSTING ALL THIS BULLSHIT ABOUT HD RADIO OR WHAT?????
F*CK THIS CUM DUMPSTER!!!!!!!!! SHOOTING LOADS OVER HD RADIO!!!
HD RADIO SUCKS!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE IT AND IM TELLING YOU:
SIRIUS ALL DAY!!!!
HD RADIO BARELY ON!!!!!!!!!!!!
Should be obvious that I am a fraud, a lair and I absolutely have no reason to be here! HD radio fan boys dont want free rides while HD radio offers substance! meanwhile sat radio offers less for more price without this merger! and my opinion about higher prices is stupid. I am a PHONY!!!! my opinions add nothing to this forum and I should be kicked out for imitating a sat radio subscriber....I am absolutely pathetic and have no life!
none of my posts make NO SENSe!!!
and your HD radio posts are great!! so what if ESPN has an HD-2 station!
WTF does it mean to me with an AM ESPN affiliate stupid! there is NO HD-2,3,4, etc. on AM radio....BUT I WONT SAY THAT BECUASE I WANT TO DELIBERATELY LIE TO SAT RAD PEOPLE SO YOU THINK THEY JUMP SHIP ON AN AWFUL PRODUCT....RATHER I HOPE YOU JUMP SHIP SO WE CAN STOP SEEING MY REDICULOUS POSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO to "merge"
only AC is a TOOL oppose a merger!
@AC ia a TOOL
"IBOC TECHNOLOGY: An Assessment of Technical & Operational Issues in the Canadian FM Radio Environment"
"For a variety of reasons relating to the time requirements for digital signal processing, it takes 8-10 seconds for the digital audio signals to be heard when an HD Radio receiver is first tuned to a transmission. Likewise, it can take equally long to restore digital quality when the signal fails and then returns again. A secondary consequence of this processing delay is that programming fed to the analog FM transmitter must be delayed by 8-10 seconds whenever the blending feature is being utilized. This ensures that content is not lost when the receiver switches back to analog mode during a digital signal failure. Stations using this technology may need to implement certain internal operational changes to accommodate the fact that off-air listeners will experience delays of up to 10 seconds with both the analog and digital versions of their programming. Since no analog program version exists for ancillary HD2 or HD3 programming, listeners experiencing digital failures must simply tolerate audio outages until the signal restores itself."
http://www.cab-acr.ca/english/radio/dab/DRCG_Report_final.pdf
"HD Radio set to botch its first impression"
"It is patently stupid to tack on HD stations to existing analog frequences (as in 98.5-1, 98.5-2, 98.5-3) and then put three different things on those frequencies... Furthermore, the names are so incredibly clunky, moving newfangled digital radio strongly in the direction of even clunkier HAM radio. It's a confusing mass of digits, decimals, and dashes."
http://www.hear2.com/2005/08/hd_radio_set_to.html
HD Radio is nothing but crap technology!
go ahead embrace garbage technology like HD radio!
sat rad and HD radio couldn't even piss in the same toilet!
yet you find excuses and rewording other people's posts to make a stupid and uneducated comment!
and im sick of his HD radio news!!!
NO ONE CARES!!! thats why HD radio is in the shitter!
go ahead embrace garbage technology like Sat radio!
sat rad and HD radio couldn't even piss in the same toilet!
yet I find excuses and reword other people's posts to make stupid and uneducated comments! I'M A LOSER!!
and im sick of his dat radio news!!!
I CARE!!! thats why sat radio is in the shitter!
go ahead embrace garbage technology like Sat radio!
sat rad and HD radio couldn't even piss in the same toilet!
yet I find excuses and reword other people's posts to make stupid and uneducated comments! I'M A LOSER!!
and im sick of his dat radio news!!!
I CARE!!! thats why sat radio is in the shitter!
i'm really confussed, I thought I understood the postings-but I guess I don't
I don't get it either
@AC=WASTE OF LIFE
"I CARE!!! thats why sat radio is in the shitter!"
Then, why does shitty HD Radio want a piece of shitty Satrad - oh, let me guess, this is HD Radio's last gasp. No one wants shitty HD Radio, so Struble is trying to force it onto manufacturers/consumers - Struble will contine to make many enemies, to the point that manufacturers will completely turn their backs on HD Radio, when ther is no forced inclusion.
"When a manufacturer like Pioneer - which sells HD Radio devices - comes out with such vehement opposition to a proposal, and at the same time, iBiquity opposes a free market proposal such as open device access. You have to question, is it the public, or the private interest that iBiquity is looking out for?"
Two points here- US Electronics, which is barely in business, has just been humiliated by a REAL manufacturer of electronic components, and secondly, we already KNOW the loathsome disgusting character of the Ibiquity slugs.
WGAY ....HD Radio’s POWER BOTTOM STATION !!!!
WGAY HDR ….. You can set your watch by our play list….when it’s playing.
Up next a limited block of payola brand music it starts with that same damn song !!! After this…. And now back to an extended commercial break. Don’t forget our new H2 commercial preview channel where we’ll be previewing commercials for upcoming commercials. Today on H3 it’s the “Who Gives A Sh*t Show!” today’s topic: HD radio FAILURE or FOLLY? Should our inferior signal strength and added expense be forced on an unwilling public? And don’t forget we have two phone lines now so you can both call in at the same time!
Pioneer lies, and some orbitcast posters better grow up.
Go HD Radio!
No to "merge"
Why does AM want to be with FM?
Why did a tape deck want to be with AM and FM?
Why does a CD player want to be with AM and FM?
Why does Sirius want to be with AM and FM?
Why does xm want to be with AM and FM?
Why does MP3 want to be with AM and FM?
F Pioneer and their whines, and agenda makes me want to rip my AVIC out. They are a manufacture, they sell gear to consumers. SHUT UP and make pro-consumer gear, pro-consumer gear = gear which gives consumers CHOICES.
F satradio for their "merge" MONOPOLY game makes me want to shut off my sub's and sell all my radios. SHUT UP and forget about "merge" make good with your customers and then try to rebuild your companies. Start with management that has a clue, however the entire business plan is flawed which will be tough to overcome long term.
HD Radio keep on keeping on! Thanks for pushing to update terrestrial radio to it's digital future. As the approved technology standard HD Radio will be the future of radio. Some blind, ignorant satradio fanboys might be upset since they think of HD Radio as a threat to be fearful of instead of another pro-consumer choice. HD Radio the time is now to widen your reach since it's painfully obvious the satradio industry is in big trouble, "merge" or NO "merge" is a fad which has done all it can to kill itself. Glad HD Radio gives consumers other excellent options.
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