Deborah Taylor Tate has been pushing the FCC Enforcement Bureau to fine both XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc. and Sirius Satellite Radio Inc., reports The Deal citing people close to the Commissioner.
Now Democratic commissioner Jonathan Adelstein has expressed his own concerns about violations by the satellite radio providers. Adelstein says that he wants the Commission to finish the enforcement proceeding before it approves the merger.
"We always do major enforcement issues first in major transactions before us, and I appreciate [Commissioner] Tate's focus on that," Adelstein told reporters. "There are major infractions of FCC rules on a wide-spread scale."
Those "major infractions" include:
1. Receivers that have FM transmitters that exceed FCC limits.
2. Repeater towers that either aren't in FCC approved locations or are emitting signals that are too strong.
3. Additionally, the WSJ Deal Journal reports that the issue of interoperable not getting to market is a concern.
Tate reportedly is considered to have similar enforcement concerns. Oddly enough, these concerns mimic those made by the NAB.
Adelstein reiterated his position for an independent committee to monitor compliance, adding that he hoped it would be similar to the Federal Trade Commission which employs independent review trustees to oversee merger conditions.
[The Deal via WSJ Deal Journal]
Make up your goddamn minds! holy shit this is ridiculous. For it or against it, i don't care. Vote. now. do your goddamn job and make a decision on a deal thats been sitting on your desk for well over a year. Fuck public servants are worthless - if they were worth a damn they'd be in the private sector. ahhhhh!!
Enough already, will you get on with it !!!!!!!!!!!!
If this is true, then this is bad. NAB and their billions win out.
My prediction- Tate will have a cushy job with a terrestrial radio company or the NAB following her service on the FCC. She sold out.
Done deal.
I wish they would vote against the merger, so we can move on. This is beyond ridiculous.
Just more boiler plate shit providing more ass covering for the yes votes they have/will give. This merger is officially approved pending the completion of the fine payment.
Satrad = Won.
NAB = Lost
How much time have they had to deal with this? Commissioner Tate seems to be in bed with the NAB. When XM goes under you can thank her.
Oh this is looking good!!!
Hope you are right plowboy. But I can't believe they are holding up the merger over a couple of fines. Damn.
this may destroy satrad... sorry subscribers. The FCC isn't in your best interest. Hence you aren't in the FCC's best interest. Wait... that doesn't make sense.
Tate doesn't seem to be able to think for herself. Being a leader, if I may say that, means using your own judgement and being responsible in making tough decisions. I don't see Tate as a leader but, a follower. She should be voted out at the next opportunity.
Right now, according to reporting from colleague Amy Schatz, the vote stands 2 to 1, with Commissioner Michael Copps voting against it as expected, and chairman Kevin Martin and commissioner Robert McDowell voting for it.
Of course, as Sun Tzu would say, the enemy fights hardest when it is cornered. The fact that the commissioners are pushing for fines may be an actual indication of faith that the merger will go through. Otherwise, it is difficult to see why they would bother.
I can't believe they are talking about FINES after 500 days of this BS!!!
If there was ever a poster child for ineffective, wasteful, bureaucratic red-tape, inefficient gov't programs- its the FCC's review of this pending merger. I mean, my god, how horribly run is this gov't agency when they can take nearly 500 days to approve a merger and then after 2 people vote for it- a commissioner bring up FINES?
FINES!????!!
You have got be F&$(NG kidding me!
I knew the second I saw that bitch's face that she was trouble. Where were these fines when the alleged "major infractions" occured? The FCC should be fined and forced to pay restitution to Sirius/XM for the damage they have caused both companies! You talk about infractions; the FCC has tossed out all of their usual protocals in order to drag this merger decision out....indefinitely. What a bunch of despicable people, and what a farce this FCC is. This is all part of a grand scheme to cripple satellite radio as much as they possibly can, with absolutely no accountability to ANYBODY! If there is a hell, and I hope there is, I hope these people roast for a long time!
I have to agree with the posters who say that all of this FCC rhetoric about fines is simply window dressing before they approve the merger with maybe maybe some small additional conditions. By holding out until the last minute the FCC commissioners can save face and say that they reviewed it until the eleventh hour giving it all due dilligence. IMO it's going to be approved in the next couple days. This is how Washington works!
Tate is just like every other FCC commissioner over the past several years, if not decades--political appointees whose only allegience is to whomever put them there. Tate is another smiley-faced robot like Abernathy, reading off a teleprompter whenever she talks. She hasn't a clue; my feeling is in the end she'll vote for the merger, under pressures from her GOP colleagues.
Would you people do your job and decide on what you want to do with this merger. This is ridiculous. I have never seen something take so bloody long. Do they have no concept of time? Everyone who caused this to drag on so long... *cough* RIAA, NAB, etc *cough* ...should be fined for their bs.
I wish the courts would move in with some sort of injunction that would overpower the FCC, and make this merger final.
This is an outrage that this issue has been allowed to go on for this amount of time. Jessie Jackson and his gang of thugs (Georgetown Partners) eg NAB mouth pieces have been manipulating this process from the day one.
The most outrageous thing of all is the fact that they use consumer protection as the reason for the delay. What a laugh that is. As far as minority programming, the only minority I know the NAB hires is drug addicts like Rush Downer Limbaugh for 400 million.
Wow what a role model that fat piece of shit is
Greedy money loving bastards
FCC is a F'n Joke...
the last paragraph in "The Deal" artcile says -
"At the conference, Adelstein also reiterated his push to have an independent committee to monitor whether the combined company complies with merger conditions imposed by the commission. Adelstein said he hoped the monitor committee would reflect the type of independent review trustees the Federal Trade Commission employ to oversee whether that agency's merger conditions are complied with.
Presumably, the independent committee would be paid for by XM-Sirius funds but be approved by FCC officials.
SOOOOO Sirius XM is going to pay for an independent committee for compliance? Does that seem odd? what a waste.....
Whats the point? Just vote "YES" and lets move on already....BULLSHIT ALREADY!!!
Ridiculous. At least there are other ways to enjoy both services until this mess is straightened out. XM at least looks like it might be ok even without this merger but you never know what can happen.
Jim,
That would be great, but if it hasn't happened by now.....this administration under Bush is like an open sore, infected with corruption, his political appointee's slithering like vile pus around a dirty wound that can't possibly heal because nobody will clean up the mess!
EXTORTION.
Emitting signals that are too strong? WTF? The signals are how they distribute the service to us the consumers.
Like I was saying:
TATE HAS VOTED! She agrees with Adelstein's proposal for the most part with the exception of the set-aside fractions. She has proposed 20% for minority programming and 5% for non-commercial programming. HD Radios - yes. 6 year price freeze - yes. plus she wants to stop the fcc clock until the companies remedy the outstanding complaints against them.
jesus h christ make a choice allready
This is ridiculous. They obviously didn't even look at this merger until June. I predict that the merger is approved, with conditions, by August 6th. It looks like there may be fines levied against the merged company in addition to some price restrictions. I am hoping that someone at the FCC has the sense to realize that 6 years is completely unrealistic in a technology based industry. I have lost faith in process and government regulatory bodies. THIS IS ONLY A 3BILLION DOLLAR DEAL. IT IS RADIO AND VIDEO. The number of competitors in these markets is astronomical. With the technological advances occurring these days the decision is a no brainer. APPROVE with NO CONDITIONS.
Sincerely,
Now
You talk about infractions; the FCC has tossed out all of their usual protocals in order to drag this merger decision out....indefinitely. What a bunch of despicable people, and what a farce this FCC is.
Did you know?? The average time it takes the FCC to approve an NPRM is 700 days after issuance?
That's the average folks. So the fact that they the votes have stated coming in before day 400 is a testament to the priority the FCC has assigned the outcome of the NPRM that lies before the FCC that will ultimately lead to either an adoption or the merger, or a disapproval.
It amazes me the lack of education and laziness most of the posters on these blogs possess. It's like they didn't even take a few seconds to do a little research to get an idea of when a decision on the NPRM could be expected. Even the "proprietor's" of "shill sites" such as this one continue to provide a disservice to it's readers by feeding it's readers with false expectations. Shame on who ever runs this site.
Next time, I suggest that maybe, just maybe, people should stop being a bunch of lazy uneducated investors and do a little bit of research on the issue. Sure, management made you all kinds of promises about closing dates last year. But, they argued against the issuance of the normal procedural NPRM process, and requested a simple adjudicated decision. Which of course was never going to happen.
The truth is... Your management had the responsibility to set youR expectations accordingly. But, they just decided to tell you exactly what you want to hear. The Blog Master of this site should have known better, but, based on the Kool-Aid induced spin that is placed on the issues provided here. I doubt that he/she was anymore educated on the legal proceedings associated with the NPRM process than it's readers. But, you would think that responsible journalism would have dictated a little bit education on their part.
Obviously Not!!
And so it goes,
PCSTEL
PCSTEL, If you're so educated then why can't you use CAPS LOCK
"youR"
Putz
prediction xm-or sirius gets brought out this week buy a big company
prediction xm-or sirius gets brought out this week buy a big company
It is time for people to really voice their OUTRAGE over this BULLSHIT. Flood the FCC's Ph. No and e-mail constantly; the no. and add. have been posted on this site numerous times. This has become downright abusive, and these bought and paid for cowards need to hear from a huge segment of people that they refuse to represent. The arrogance! The audacity! The ineptitude and utter disregard for the majorities best interest, all because of a special interest group, the NAB, who evidently can play the FCC like a marionette. This merger delay only reinforces my feeling that this government has lost touch with upholding the Constitution, representing the MAJORITY,and the most basic principles of right and wrong!
Oh PCSTEL...........It amazes me the lack of education and laziness most of the posters on these blogs possess" WoW We need a guy like you to decide for us what we should read. Also to decide what is education and what is not.
DOJ says the merger is legal dickhead.that is why it should be passed or rejected.maybe in your law books you can find a time when the FCC has jurisdiction over the Dept of Justice
I really can't believe no one has gone postal over this. We are being forced to watch this bull shit and have no say. They don't care about the listeners, investors, or anyone else.
these cheese dick fucks care only about themselves. I am sad for america !
This is what other countries see the USA as and they have no respect for us because our self serving politions do this shit to them every time they turn around. We are in big trouble and i don't just mean siri investors I mean all america .
This could work either way as an out for the FCC.....the fine will be rather exorbitant that if these companies need to merge so bad that the FCC will force them to pay for it, and wouldn't be surprised some of that money doesn't get kicked back into someone elses hands....and if the companies refuse to pay the fine, the FCC has an out by saying, "don't blame us....we said you could have your merger, just as long as you paid these fines (that we knew you wouldn't be able to pay)". At which point Sirius & XM will have to call their bluff and pay the fines. It's a game of "just how bad do you need to merge and what are you willing to pay for it?"
I WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE ON THIS THINLY EDUCATED THEAD LINE REALLY OWN ANY MAJOR STOCK HOLDINGS IN EITHER OF THESE COMPANIES. I'D GUESS YOUR ALL MINORITY INVESTORS WHO ARE JUST WANTING TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK JUST LIKE THE NAB. NONE OF YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT ANYTHING BUT YOUR OWN ASS MAKING MONEY....ON THE POP . POOR PLOWBOY SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY FELLOW WHO HAS ANY LONG TERM HOLDINGS .THE REST OF YOU SOUND LIKE FYOUR LIVING OFF YOUR MOMS AND DADDYS AND THEIR GIVING YOU ALL YOUR TOYS TO PLAY WITH . WHILE I SIT AND READ THESE TWO YEAR OLD WHINER MESSAGES THAT ARE BEING PLACED INTO THE PUBLIC DOMAIN, I REFLECT ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY AND THE EVENTUAL DOWNFALL OF IT BASED ON THE TOTAL INSANITY THAT IS OCCURING IN THIS FORUM.I AM ABSOLUTLY ASTOUNDED AT THE VICIOUS OUTRAGE SOME FEEL TOWARD THE FCC JUST DOING THE PUBLIC'S DUTY IN SECURING OUR FUTURE PAY FOR ENJOYMENT RADIO. IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE FOR THEM TO HEAR ALL SIDES REGUARDLESS OF THE SHAREHOLDERS INVALUABLE STOCKHOLDINGS.AT ONE TIME THIS STOCK HIT $0.41 CENTS A SHARE FOR SIRIUS RADIO AND THEY DID NOT GO BANK RUPT CHILDREN . SO NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS , THEIR WILL BE SATRAD RADIO...... TOO MANY VERY WEATHY PEOPLE SUPPORT BOTH THESE WONDERFUL COMPANIES AND MERGER OR NOT,THEY ARE BOTH GOING TO BE HERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME .....NOW QUIT GETTING YOUR PECKERS ENTWINED IN .EACH OTHERS AND GO TO BED . TOMORROW IS GOING TO BE MUCH BETTER.FOR THE WORLD IS NOT GOING TO END IF THE MERGER IS NOT APPROVED. DEMOCRACY IS A GOOD THING AND IN THE FUTURE RADIO WILL STILL BE FREE JUST LIKE T.V. IS TODAY.BELIEVE ME ....!!!!! JUST DON'T LISTEN TO ME...WATCH THE COMMERCIALS ON YOUR T.V.'S AND REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE AND WILL STILL BE FREE WITH THE GOVERMENT'S SPONSERED UPGRADE FOR FREEDOM FROM YOUR LOCAL CABLE MONOPLY .IF YOUR STILL READING THIS COMMENT YOU ARE ONE OF THE IDIOTS I'M REFERING TOO.NOW......GO TO BED YOU DUMBASS!!!!! IT'S PAST YOUR BEDTIME CHILD !!!!!!
The situation about the interoperable radio could be a thing where the FCC comes out and tells the companies to cooperate with each other to put the interoperable radio on the market first and, if needed, they can revisit the issue to merge in 2 or 3 years. I also agree with a recent poster that says I wouldn't doubt that the merger doesn't take place because some 3rd party will come in and buy one of the 2 companies before we even see a decision from the FCC.
Here's what I'm thinking....
Does XM and Sirius get to fine the FCC for inane incompetence?
If so, we're even.
FCC say yes after fines, 6 year freeze, 25% bullcrap, ect.....
Mel says NO
Hey .. pssss... Are the cameras on? ... How's my hair? .... "Ladies and Gentlemen, after due consideration I feel it's best to permit this merger .... right after I see if my confirmation is in the bag ... I'll get back to you" ! Pssss... Hey Amy.. did I get any awards today? ... Did the President or John Kerry call for me? .... Who can I be seen with next week?
Still laughing.... I'm good for 385K +/- how's that for some crackers?
I'M SORRY I POSTED ALL THAT CRAP. I'M A DUMBASS AND A LOSER.
Plowboy, you own both SIRI & XMSR? Wow, my heart goes out to you...
I think I will buy some more tomorrow for your cause!
Good Luck
Ne1
SEE, THE PROBLEM IS, I'M PISSED OFF BECAUSE I HAVE TO GO TO BED EARLY BUT I'M BORED, SO I'M STILL UP. IF MY PARENTS CATCH ME, MY ASS WILL BE IN THE GRINDER. HEY, SORRY AGAIN FOR THE PREVIOUS LONG POST. I KNOW I'M A DIPSHIT FOR POSTING IT AND TREATING YOU ALL LIKE MORONS. SORRY!!! :(
PCSTEL,
You arrogant, insulting, pompous piece of shit. So you are the only one, who posts on this site, who is educated? The only one who's opinion has any merit? If satelitte radio and this merger disturbes you so much ( and why it would is a mystery - you don't subscribe, you don't listen to it, and you are not an investor), why don't you just chill out. Maybe go to your room, fire up some good AM/FM, and listen to Rush Limbaugh or...perhaps rock out to some Manilow. What the hell, crank up that bad ass Kenny G! If your going to have a good time, and you have the best radio available, I say take advantage of the situation. The rest of us will have to suffer with our satellite radio's. It won't be easy, because there just aren't enough commercials and they play way too many songs. I envy you; you are not only smarter than everybody else, but you have one of those terrestrial radio's that plays 4 or 5 songs an hour, the rest of the time filled with someone yelling at you to buy shit. This fucking satellite contraption is giving me a migrain with all the nonstop music and enormous content. The lack of commercials is pissing me off too. What was I thinking when I signed up for this? I should have consulted with you, because you are brilliant and have all the answers. By the way, do you know where I could get a radio like the one you listen to? Let me know, because I want to put it in my toilet tank to conserve water. You have to admit, that's pretty smart!
That whole thing with FM signals being to strong, is bullshit. If the FCC had a legit reason to control wireless FM transmitter strengths, they shouldn't have allowed companies to market stronger ones, that can fill your whole house.(for example) As for the repeaters, they where probably just to busy at tryiing to make their services better.
Lets hope HEAVY FINES, JAIL TIME, FCC LICENSE'S PULLED, and a BIG OLD NO! to "merge" MONOPOLY scheme's
Good - let them push the interoperable receiver, instead of trying to mandate HD Radio in all Satrad receivers, which is absurd. Such a receiver would be too complex and expensive and never make it to the marketplace.
STILL LAUGHING
What is a "Thead"
Dufass
i think the fcc should come on the howard stern show and bob for tampoons
July 18, 2008
"The participants discussed pending issues raised in recent filings in the above-referenced proceeding, including matters pending before the Enforcement Bureau. Sirius and XM reiterated positions consistent with the parties’ filings in this proceeding, and urged prompt approval of the pending merger. XM SUBSEQUENTLY SENT MS. BOHIGIAN A COPY OF THE ATTACHED 2006 FCC FILING."
October 2, 2006
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=6520034750
The Commission has recognized that terrestrial repeaters are critical to enable SDARS licensees to overcome the effects of signal blockage and multipath interference. Consistent with this policy, in September 2001, the Bureau granted XM an STA to operate a network of terrestrial repeaters while the Commission concluded its rulemaking proceeding regarding final technical rules for the service. In granting this STA, the Bureau recognized that XM "needs to employ terrestrial repeaters to provide adequate service." See XM STA Order 7. Soon after grant of this STA, XM began providing commercial satellite radio service. Since that time, satellite radio has proven to be a highly attractive service to American consumers, confirming the Commission's vision in establishing the satellite radio service. As of today, XM has over 7 million subscribers (roughly 15 million listeners).
In light of the above, XM urges the Bureau to grant the requested Specail Temporary Authority in the public interest. An expeditious grant will permit XM to continue to provide a valuable entertainment and information service to millions of American consumers with the same quality of service they have come to expect. As demonstrated by XM's previous operations, there is no risk of causing harmful interference to other services or licensees and, to the extent any such interference should develop, XM accepts its obligation to remedy the situation immediately.
so now we goota have the rev jeese and fat al show for minority broadcasting
ohhh booyyyy
PCSTEL why are you here? Go away you F&%ing A$$hole.
Just because certain FCC members are worried about their reinstatement to the committee, doesn't give them the authority to be ruled by lobbiest instead of common wisdom. These commest lately make me considered, not as a shareholder, but as an American. Oblivously there is competition to satillite radio, but some have used it as it an excuse to line their pockets and/or create an influence upon others. God bless you all!!!!
Let's talk fines. For the FM Transmiiters, the satellite companies should pay fines as soon as the FCC fines the I pod hook ups and the new HD radio plug and plays. And the manufacturer should pay most of the fine...done.
The repeaters. Pay a small fine. Remember that the repeaters operate on frequencies exclusively for satellite radio. Big issues would cause them to interfere with their own networks, so this is small potatoes. Also the companies turned themselves in, shut down some repeaters and asked for temporary authority to operate others while things were worked out. Finally, many of these appear to be clerical errors with the coordinates, and sometimes the error came from other tower users who ALSO had the same error. (GIGO)
Finally the interoperable. No pay for a fine. The companies have stated several time that they believe they are in compliance with the rule. (Too bad if the rule is poorly written). Further the FCC in several YEARS has not advised them of any non compliance. No Pay. IF the FCC insists, merge and sort it out in court. I think the company would win.
PCSTEL why are you here? Go away you F&%ing A$$hole.
What's wrong pal. It sure is fun to make outrageous claims against our appointed Govt. officials based on just plain WRONG data and misinformation. It's just so funny seeing complete idiots running around pounding their chests, demanding action because of the huge delays associated with the current NPRM process.
But, as a cruel twist of fate.. FACTS come to the rescue for the uneducated and BITTER.
Heck, you want to complain about NPRM delays. The NPRM that was issued on August 9th, 2001 regarding flexibility in delivery of Mobile Satellite Services (Terrestrial Repeaters) STILL hasn't been ruled on. Both companies are still operating under STA Authority.
Boys and Girls.. That's about 2,880 DAYS..
And you guys are Bitchin' about 400 Days.
Maybe next time you can pick up a Book and READ.
And so it goes,
PCSTEL
WHILE ALL YOU IMPOSTERS TRY TO STEAL MY IDENITY,I'M STILL LAUGHING SO DAMN HARD AT THE FACT THAT YOU DON,T KNOW WHAT A THEAD IS... IT'S A SEVEN FINGERED MAN , SITTING IN THE DARK, IN HIS BROTHER IN LAWS HOUSE TRYING TO TYPE WHILE LAUGHING UNCONTROLABLY AT THE INSANITY THAT THIS MERGER HAS BROUGHT UPON ALL OF YOU ...... I HOPE FOR HEAVENS SAKE AND MINE AND YOURS AS WELL NOT EXCLUDING MY BANK ACCOUNT THAT MS.TATE SAYS YES THIS WEEK .
WHILE ALL YOU IMPOSTERS TRY TO STEAL MY IDENITY,I'M STILL LAUGHING SO DAMN HARD AT THE FACT THAT YOU DON,T KNOW WHAT A THEAD IS... IT'S A SEVEN FINGERED MAN , SITTING IN THE DARK, IN HIS BROTHER IN LAWS HOUSE TRYING TO TYPE WHILE LAUGHING UNCONTROLABLY AT THE INSANITY THAT THIS MERGER HAS BROUGHT UPON ALL OF YOU ...... I HOPE FOR HEAVENS SAKE AND MINE AND YOURS AS WELL NOT EXCLUDING MY BANK ACCOUNT THAT MS.TATE SAYS YES THIS WEEK .
WHILE ALL YOU IMPOSTERS TRY TO STEAL MY IDENITY,I'M STILL LAUGHING SO DAMN HARD AT THE FACT THAT YOU DON,T KNOW WHAT A THEAD IS... IT'S A SEVEN FINGERED MAN , SITTING IN THE DARK, IN HIS BROTHER IN LAWS HOUSE TRYING TO TYPE WHILE LAUGHING UNCONTROLABLY AT THE INSANITY THAT THIS MERGER HAS BROUGHT UPON ALL OF YOU ...... I HOPE FOR HEAVENS SAKE AND MINE AND YOURS AS WELL NOT EXCLUDING MY BANK ACCOUNT THAT MS.TATE SAYS YES THIS WEEK .
The fines? now? WHAT THE F*@k!!!???
I think they could have worked on that while the DOJ was reviewing the merger. They did their job. NOW DO YOURS!!!??? NOW??? YOU LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF RETARDS!!!!
HOLY CRAP!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS???
Now they want to do their JOB? HOLY HELL!!!! FIRE THEM ALL!!!! NOW!!!
WHERE IS THE LEADERSHIP for these CLOWNS!?
To whomever will listen,
I am writing to express my absolute outrage at the actions of FCC members, and it's leadership. If there is any truth to the article published on orbitcast.com about handling fines prior to the merger, I am sick.
Why would the FCC not handle this at a previous date? Why would you use this as leverage at this time? The issues should have been handled during the DOJ review..
This is outrageous and I demand an investigation.
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! WHEN WILL THIS FUCKING NIGHTMARE END???!!!!
This is BEYOND FUCKING RIDICULOUS!!!!! Oh MY FUCKING GOD!! SHIT! PISS! FUCK!!!!!
This whole FIASCO is giving me TERRETS! FUCK FUCK FUCKITY FUCK FUCK!
I can't stop! FUCK THE FCC!!!!
I am a democrat but if Tate votes yes and drops the fines... I'll vote for McCain!!!
Thats the email we should send her. We will support the republicans. NOT Adelstein and the egghead Copps.... bastards.
"Pioneer Reiterates Position Against HD Chip Requirement"
Pioneer has been very vocal in their position with one particular “concession” that has been a frequent subject of the proposed merger between Sirius and XM. The audio equipment manufacturer believes that there should be no requirement to install HD radio chipsets in all SDARS receivers.
Pioneer met with the democrat commissioners (Copps and Adelstein) on Monday, July 21, 2008. This happens to be the same day that commissioner Copps rendered his decision to vote against the merger without taking the opportunity to offer a counter proposal for consideration.
It is Pioneers position that manufacturers should not be required to include HD Radio chipsets into SDARS receivers, and that in fact, a free market should determine whether or not these chipsets are installed.
One item to note is that Pioneer did not meet with commissioner Tate. Tate is widely seen as being the third vote needed for the merger to gain approval, and the fact that Pioneer did not meet with her may be indicative that she sides with the Pioneer position with regard to this issue.
http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle+articleid_2424000&title=Pioneer_Reiterates.html
Jesus Christ, let's hope so!
AJ Wrote: Just because certain FCC members are worried about their reinstatement to the committee, doesn't give them the authority to be ruled by lobbyist instead of common wisdom.
Plowboy Sez: Yes it does, and the record is the proof.
Every entity has it's own OJ / Judge Ito moment. In the case of presidential history, it is a tie between Taft, Hoover and my pick, George Bush. Homeland Security and FEMA has it's Katrina with a 'Good Job Brownie" moment. Now it's the FCC turn to wipe the pie and egg off it's face over the years to come for the XM-Sirius debacle.
I have to say, I've never seen micro surgery done with a rust hand saw and a dull before chisel until this mess. What a circus, and what circus clowns in the center of the ring. My "take away" . While the caliber of a President doesn't assure intelligent cabinet placements, your sure to draw flies if you start with horse manure.
Are there no thugs left in this world?
Logic and money have failed, its time for violence.
Here it is everyone, no votes untill the fines are payed.This will take months to do.There will have to be more meeting to discuss these fines and the dollars amounts, I see the fines in the tens of millons of dollars...There won't be any more voting till Sept..
it looks like a lawsuit has been filed in the federal court system and was dated july 16th.
have read through four documents thus far, based upon what i understand currently. at least one person within the fcc had access to these documents in mid-june and some of the supporting information.
it centers around the past actions or inactions of the three companies central to this merger and the interoperable/dual device issue ...and its effects on shareholders in both companys..
the filing takes a very polite shot at the fcc by mentioning some of merger related process's underway.along with the failure to enforce the device mandate.
does randall mays still have ties to the xm board? as he was also mentioned as a defendant.
The FCC is just pissed that CBS didn't get fined for the Janet 'Show Me Your Boobies' Jackson showing.
If there's a lawsuit, please post the Case Number here. Some of us subscribe to PACER and those documents are public record, so we can get details on the lawsuit.
What a bunch of pathetic political cowards these so-call 'Commissioners' are. At this point, Karmazin should tell them to go piss on themselves, walk away, and sell Sirius off to a communications-based enterprise that can capitalize it properly. XM should do the same. And the FCC can go perform an impossible anatomical act.
what JRT said.
let get the number
SACV08-00790 CJC (ANx) hope that helps you locate the information
ONE YEAR AND 156 DAYS OVERDUE !!!
Hey Tate, Exxon/Mobile only took 3 months ...
It's only radio, so vote. Yes or No ... is it really that hard to make this decision?
Just vote !!!
Always dumb cunts holding up important decisions... Just Like Condi, Laura, and the girls....
Come on Taint, make a freakin' decision already...
tit for tat.
PCSTEL,
"What's wrong pal."
It is a question.
"What's wrong pal?"
Education is the key to life.
Putz
Lets hope HEAVY FINES, JAIL TIME, FCC LICENSE'S PULLED, and a BIG OLD NO! to "merge" MONOPOLY scheme's
The FCC is 100% justified in their actions, and deserve respect. Not a bunch of ignorant comments by idiot investors who made bad, risky and failed investments, or by a bunch of comments by blind, ignorant satradio fanboys. The FCC are doing their JOBS. Just hope all the degrading and ignorant comments are being used against the blind, ignorant, satradio fanboys. One look here at Orbitcast more than proves the satradio minority (in the big picture of radio listeners) subscribers have proven their blind, ignorance, and desperation for anti-consumer actions. The satradio industry with all it's brazen, flagrant and major infractions of FCC rules on a wide-spread scale, now wants what is equal to a government buyout, due to years of poor management. Perhaps the FCC was letting the satradio companies side on these infractions as long as the issues were corrected, however Melvin Alan "Mel" Karmazin's desperate greed and arrogant "merge" MONOPOLY scheme has removed any good will the FCC has for the satradio industry. All 5 honorable FCC commissioners should once and for all put the hammer own on the satradio industry Lets hope HEAVY FINES, JAIL TIME, FCC LICENSE'S PULLED, and a BIG OLD NO! to "merge" MONOPOLY scheme's
"Orbitcast provides up-to-date news, information, reviews and honest opinions on the Satellite Radio industry and the two satcasters Sirius and XM." That mission statement is a complete JOKE. Ryan should be embarrassed and dismayed in what this site has become due to personal agendas and blind ignorant satradio fanboys. We should ALL be embarrassed in what the satradio industry (that most of us support) has become. Why Sirius and xm can not simply play by the FCC rules they agreed to is reason enough for educated consumers to cancel subscriptions with them, to say nothing about Melvin Alan "Mel" Karmazin's greed and arrogance, nothing about that or his "merge" MONOPOLY scheme is pro-consumer.
Satradio might currently be a percentage "better" in some peoples opinion than what terrestrial currently offers, but why support satradio with it's management more concerned with lining their pockets than the health of the industry. Why support satradio with it's management that can't figure out how to run a business in what almost 8 years now. Why support satradio with it's management who can't follow simple FCC rules and fell nothing about taking advantage of the US Radio spectrum and consumers, some consumers who are satradio subscribers. Satradio go screw.
Lets hope HEAVY FINES, JAIL TIME, FCC LICENSE'S PULLED, and a BIG OLD NO! to "merge" MONOPOLY scheme's
How about this scenario: The merger fails. XM goes out of business. Sirius has 100% of the market. Mel wins. Stern wins. The FCC is no longer involved. Who needs geosynchronous satellites anyway?
How about this scenario: The merger fails. XM goes out of business. Sirius has 100% of the market. Mel wins. Stern wins. The FCC is no longer involved. Who needs geosynchronous satellites anyway?
PCSTEL,
"What's wrong pal."
It is a question.
"What's wrong pal?"
Education is the key to life
ROTFLMAO!!
From your previous post.
PCSTEL, If you're so educated then why can't you use CAPS LOCK
Hey Pal! I think you need to look up the definition of the term "hypocrite" in the Dictionary.
Have you ever heard of using a "comma", or how about a period at the end of a statement?
When you can't debate the FACTS. You can always debate the grammar.
Pick up a book once in a while, you might actually learn something.
And so it goes,
PCSTEL
PCSTEL,
"What's wrong pal."
It is a question.
"What's wrong pal?"
Education is the key to life
ROTFLMAO!!
From your previous post.
PCSTEL, If you're so educated then why can't you use CAPS LOCK
Hey Pal! I think you need to look up the definition of the term "hypocrite" in the Dictionary.
Have you ever heard of using a "comma", or how about a period at the end of a statement?
When you can't debate the FACTS. You can always debate the grammar.
Pick up a book once in a while, you might actually learn something.
And so it goes,
PCSTEL
PCSTEL,
I am not the one claiming to be superior
Putz
lol.......