The Associated Press is reporting that FCC Commission Jonathan Adelstein will vote in favor of the merger between Sirius Satellite Radio Inc. and XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc. if the companies agree to certain additional conditions.
Adelstein wants the companies to cap prices for six years and make one quarter of their combined spectrum available for public interest and minority programming, among other conditions.
If the Sirius-XM agree, Adelstein told the AP that he will be in favor of the deal.
"It's critical that if we're going to allow a monopoly, that we put in adequate consumer protections and make sure they're enforced," Adelstein said. Adelstein circulated his recommended conditions among the other four commissioners Thursday.
[CNN]
That's great we oppose big radio by giving big radio everything they ask for.
Tate is a useless cunt. Like I said, never send a woman to do a man's job. Hope you get confirmed bitch.
FUCK YOU>>>>Adlestein!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Adelstein still talking about a monopoly!! The DOJ already decided it's NOT a monopoly.
Look at this Hard-on, when was the last time he got laid.
What the fuck are a bunch of monkeys going to do with 75 channels. Adelstein is one big fucking loser. This is not about what could be offered on the 25%, its trying to crimp what satellite radio has to offer by reducing their capacity even if the airwaves on the 25% are silent. It's their spectrum & these pieces of shit want it for free.
Tate needs to step up big here for this merger, throw them a bone and up spectrum concession to 10%, no HD chips and enforcement action on the concessions. They will accept that & done deal.
I don't even want to hear from that 5th donkey as it will be similar to this jackass.
It takes a Dem to at least speak up. Thanks JA, I appreciate you moving the ball. Horseface wasn't about to.
his lips look yummy
Just when you think it's a matter of 'when' not 'if'...this stuff happens.
Clearly, the NAB got to him. Heck, the 6 year thing wasn't even brought up until this week from Markey!!
Sad...very sad.
You guys are full of shit if your mad at JA. For chrissakes man, don't you get it? Tate was going to let the deal die for her appointment. JA DID us all a favor. It will end up at 4 years and 20%..
Don't you dare be pissed at JA.
I guess the fact that Adelstein is ready to compromise is a good sign. Adelstein pulls the trigger (and misses wide) before Tate.... so are you in Tate?.... or will the Dems on the FCC have the last laugh.
You guys are full of shit if your mad at JA. For chrissakes man, don't you get it? Tate was going to let the deal die for her appointment. JA DID us all a favor. It will end up at 4 years and 20%..
Don't you dare be pissed at JA.
If you all want to be pissed, give Tate hell. I just wrote her and told her what a cunt she is. She was going to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in order to get the Dem appointment this fall. At least JS stood up. He could have let it die.
What a useless, no good , two faced, motherfuck Tate is. I'll do my best to deep six her ass on the appoitment... we all should!
and why does the DOJ even exist.................i mean really..............i want my tax payers money back. The FCC just stated that the DOJ doesn;t mean shit.
Do you swallow, Adelstien? You mounth looks yummy.
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I CAN'T TAKE THIS FUCKING SHIT ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COME ON TATE! The nation turns it's lonely eyes to YOU! Coo-coo-ka-CHOO!!!!
Please don't tell me you're delaying because you are thinking like Adelstein!
His demands are INSANE!
This whole thing is CRAZY!
End this MADNESS NOW. It's in YOUR hands Mrs. Tate. YOU and YOU alone can restore balance in the universe and make things RIGHT again.
You're our last and only hope Obi-TATE-KENOBI. Don't let us down.
APPROVE this merger WITHOUT anymore restrictions. USE your common sense. LOOK around. See how internet radio is on the iphone now. See how Sirius DOES compete with terrestrial radio. See how they have agreed to lower prices and 8% spectrum give away that is MORE than fair.
Give the NAB the swift kick in the NADS that it DESERVES.
END THIS WITH A YAY VOTE!
Do you swallow, Adelstien? Your mounth looks yummy.
Do you swallow Adelstien? You mounth look yummy
One thing I absolutely cannot grasp in all this talk:
How does taking away 25% of the consumer's spectrum benefit the consumer? How can less channels and lower sound quality benefit me?
Thinking about this a bit more ... Martin says 8% Adelstein says 25% ... it's a negotation ... call it good at 15% and sign off on the thing,
You know.... if that 25% included what sirius and xm offer as minority and public service broadcast already that might be doable.... reduce to 4 years and Sirius decides what to put in the public service/minority spectrum.
Mel better not give away ANY of my investment. This is disgusting!!!
480 something days and here we go again come tate do the fcc a favor and end this madness so we can fire kevin the dip shit martin for what hes done for the fcc. This is madness cause this should have been done a long time ago! Vote in favor of this merger tate please don't be a democrat
Plowboy, you are despicable. Even if you are unhappy with the fact that Ms. Tate hasn't brought her decision to the table yet, your language and attitude concerning her is not only ungentlemanly, but totally without class. Ms. Tate is someone's mother, wife, possibly sister and certainly someone's daughter. How would you view someone calling your mother, sister or wife a c--t and a useless bitch? A "man's" job? What makes you think her position is a "man's" job? The only such thing as a "man's" job is to be a sperm contributor in the cycle of life.
You guys really don't get this do you? .. you really don't get the politics of this?
Tate wasn't and Isn't going to vote for it. Let me repeat ... Tate wasn't and Isn't going to vote for it. ..One more time ..Tate wasn't and Isn't going to vote for it.
John did you a favor. Tate was fucking off in Africa and failed to counter.... she wants appointed. Copps is too old to get it... he was/is still going South.
Had JA Not acted, this deal would be tits up Gentlemen.
Thanks JA, I get it.
Too late jerk-off, the deal is done, and if for some unimaginable reason it wasn't, I don't believe any respectable or undesirable business leader is going to have their hands tied for 6 six years and give up 25% of their possible income stream to satisfy anyone. This joker is trying to look important at the last minute.
By the way, the last time I saw a face like that it had a hook in it!
Frank wanna double team that mouth?
75 channels for what? Please explain what the are going to do with them. Teach every language on earth with them? You got to be kidding me.
Fuck Tate, she's a Cunt.
She had a public duty, but served her own interest first, fucking two companies for 500 days and the public. Being called a useless Cunt is in fact way too kind for her. Fucking useless Cunt may be more correct.
He ought to just say "NO" to the deal then. These conditions are almost certain to be rejected by the companies.
So the new entity has to give up 1/4 of their company, have no price flexiblilty for 6 years PLUS other additional concessions?? So this is a breakup of the company then.. These companies will have no synergies that can be used to reduce costs etc. which is the reason why they were to get together in the first place and Mel said it would be passed on to the consumer in a price freeze for 3 years, ala carte etc- DOJ said no issues with merger--Walk away from this then jeeze
To heck with the merger Sirius does not need it.
NAB Free sat radio is going to kill all your radio station members.
NAB do you understand this puts sat radio in many more millions of peoples hands and they are then going to give up listening to your member stations.
Once they have the radio all they need to do is call for s sub.
NAB IF YOU LET THIS HAPPEN YOU CAN KISS YOUR MEMBER STATIONS GOOD BY.
AS A shareHolder (all be a minor 1) I can tell you with pretty good certainty that there is little to no chance of that.
i willing to give 100% of the SPE>>R>M Aldestein. Come and take it you D>>KH>>D
DAVE -
You have to pay taxes before you can get them back. What you're refering to is the welfare checks you've been getting all these years that allows you to pay for your dial up AOL service.
The 25% "public interest" channels would be transmitted free of charge and could be received without a subscription. They would in effect be NAB associates. They would then start adding all sorts of advertising to the point that they would become revenue bearing to the broadcasters of those channels, but not to the satrad carrier. Bottom line would be that Sirius would loose 25% of it's value. The more channels that would be added to the satrad carrier then the more money that the public interest channels would make and it would all be provided to them for free. As always, when Sirius gets guys like that in their pants they would never be able to get them out. The whole merger has got to be refused if 25% of the channels are to be lost. I would be far more agreeable to a six year lockdown of the subscription rates, but only if cable TV and such would also agree to a similar restriction on their rates. Have you noticed how much your cable bill has gone up during the past six years?
As a shareholder there's no way I can go for a 6-year price cap. That's way too consumer friendly while selling us with an investment riding on the line down the river. What happens if there's cost increases incurred by the company? If it's going to be that way, then I say reject the deal, let XM go under and Sirius will be the only player in town and won't have to worry about any sort of price cap or public interest channels. Or there'd better be some sort of loophole around that 6-year price cap.
Ms. Tate should do America a huge favor and go home to Tennessee and play with her Grandchildren. As Plowboy pointed out in the Forum, if a person wants to hold a job they also have the responsibility to perform ... not stall, hoping the decision will be made for you.
If you're reading this Ms. Tate, you have failed in your job. No decision, is a decision. There are enough politicians in Washington looking out for themselves. You're just another one of them and a example of why America has become pathetic.
What are these other conditions?........ He gets to suck Howards COCK on Air??
I find it interesting this concept of "minority programming." It is as if we are still in the 1950s. Is it the attitude that the Metropolitan Opera programming on satellite is only for white, non-black, non-hispanic people? How about hip hop music programming? Is a white person not supposed to enjoy that? How about NPR? How about BBC news? I am all for programming and a society which is fully inclusive, and I think programming specifically aimed at one ethnic group, gays, straights, old, young, etc. is fine, but what about considering "general population" programming as being in the best interest of all divergent groups? Actually, when money is to be made, it doesn't matter what I think; it doesn't matter what you think. It only matters if you can create a market, even if one is not needed. Good luck to all of us!
I would like a price freeze for six years.
I've offered myself up for the job of lead Plaintiff in a class action lawsuit against Sirius. For those of you who don't know me, I'm a major shareholder in Sirius. I speak truth to power. I have 151,000 shares of Sirius. I've was offered $500,000 to keep my mouth shut but I turned it down. If this merger goes through without the FCC penalizing Sirius for not bringing interoperable radios to market, I will sue them. If the merger doesn't go through, I'm planning to sue them. I love it!
Wrong. The original price freeze allowed for the recouping of some costs. You guys think Sirius can walk huh? ... they can't... neither can XM. These companies have spent 18 months waiting for these jack-offs.
This deal will be accepted very close to this form, which BTW, is a fair and fine deal.
Hartleib, you're a f'ing psycho. Go away. Go sue someone. No one here gives a shit what you think.
Forget him , he's an idiot. If you took a full picture of him, you would see a hand going up "the dark hole", and his actions are being controlled from there.
Minority Radio would that be Jackson giving instructions on how to Neuter a N-----.
Sirius has Minority programing now and they were not forced to do it.
Would Sirius count the % they have now or would they remove all Minority Programing they have now and advertise Sirius as Minorty free Radio?
Jessie fucking Jackson who pretends to be rightous and for the blacks and minorities got caught saying "Nigger" Nobody better let this prick off easy !
This better be the last time he makes a stink about what a white man says.
In other news - buy.com has the slacker music portables at a huge discount - instead of $300 for the 8 gigger it's 219 shipped! Mine's on it's way, then out the door for XM. I'll use the MP3 memory for downloaded talk content and I'm good.
See you later XM!
Mel tell that bone head to drop dead....
"if he allows a monopoly"???? He bought the cool aid from the NAB and TOTALLY slapped the DOJ in their face regarding their decision in favor of the merger with no conditions--Its all politics now
According to the Associated Press, FCC Commissioner Adelstein has put an offer on the table that would enable the merger to happen. Adelstein, a democrat commissioner, was not widely considered as one of the commissioners that would support the merger. By Adelstein putting an offer on the table, there is perhaps a bit of insurance for the merger to proceed if republican commissioner Tate for some reason seeks even more stringent concessions.
Adelstein is asking that additional concessions be added to the deal in order to gain his support. Adelstein is said to be seeking:
Pricing cap for six years instead of three.
Commitment of 25% of the spectrum for informational and minority programming.
Other requirements that were not specified
There were no details offered on whether the 25% of the spectrum would be under control of the merged entity.
In reference to the issue Adelstein stated, “It’s critical that if we’re going to allow a monopoly, that we put in adequate consumer protections and make sure they’re enforced.”
This latest news now puts commissioner Tate in even more of a spotlight than she was previously. Conventional thinking would have many believe that Tate would seek fewer concessions that Adelstein. Because of this, part of the finalized picture can now begin to take shape, and the street can begin to extrapolate where the conditions will fall.
Sirius and XM have not offered any official response to the Adelstein proposal. For quite some time it has been insinuated that giving back too much spectrum would be a deal breaker. Exactly where the spectrum line is drawn is unknown, but estimates in the neighborhood of 10% have been popular.
[ Via Associated Press ]
Position: Long Sirius, XM.
I got a great idea,lets have more meeting.
We be at 900 days in no time at all.
In other words, you can merge, but we are going to make damn sure that satellite radio never prospers, never can compete with current and future technologies, and anybody who invested in these companies never recovers money lost due to the most absurd conditions/concessions imaginable! Sirius would be accepting a death sentence if they agree to these terms. What conditions did Exxon/ mobile have to agree to? With each passing day, I have less faith in our government and a more bleek, hopeless feeling about this countries future. Like I've said; this is the tip of the iceberg. Our government no longer represents the will and best interest of it's citizens. This merger fiasco has revealed how broken the political system is. How sad, demoralizingand pathetic.
Good grief. Can you say under the table deal with this jabrone? Is Slim Shady too white for rap? Is Jamie Foxx not drawing fans? Why don't they try to buyout Oprah's XM contract -- maybe that'll pull in the demographics they're seeking? Give me a freaking break. It's just another prime example of government holding companies hostage because the NAACP threatens to boycott something.
"Pricing cap for six years instead of three. Commitment of 25% of the spectrum for informational and minority programming. Other requirements that were not specified
There were no details offered on whether the 25% of the spectrum would be under control of the merged entity."
What - no HD Radio!
That is not acceptable. If he wants to come back with a reasonable offer then I think some negotiations could start and hopefully conclude quickly. Otherwise, Tate needs to step up to the plate. Right wing conservatives like Gary Bauer support this merger. Follow his lead.
I cannot wait until my ethic group becomes the minority. Will the FCC give back all they are trying to take? Will Jesse join my ethnic group and fuck the minority like he is now?
fucking ridiculous ~ they're still negotiating conditions and dipshit didn't get the memo that this deal is NOT a MONOPOLY....Does the DOJ and FCC not communicate? What the fuck is that all about? I mean jesus christ, how inefficient could these schmucks be? And really, what the hell are minorities going to do with all that programming? it's ridiculous and i too agree that this PC bullshit is driving this country into the shitter.
Looks like Tate left her snail-trail all over his head.
Not to worry.... if they say yes then these twits will say, no wait.. did I say 25% and six years cap?? I meant fifty percent and twenty years cap.. if they say yes to that they will say no wait we want... get it.. these people are so... well everybody else is saying it for me..
This IS the TRUTH!
""It's critical that if we're going to allow a monopoly, that we put in adequate consumer protections and make sure they're enforced," Adelstein said. Adelstein circulated his recommended conditions among the other four commissioners Thursday."
The BIG "IF"
Again blind ignorant fanboys, Melvin Alan "Mel" Karmazin's "merge" scheme IS a attempt at a MONOPOLY. Melvin Alan "Mel" Karmazin started this mess and he and the satellite radio industry will now get the MAJORITY'S conditions which benefit all citizens.
Thanks FCC Commission Jonathan Adelstein! Please continue doing your JOB with the MAJORITY above the greed, arrogance, and ignorance of the satradio fanboy minority.
"If we are going to allow a monopoly". Hasn't this egg headed, nerdy looking dildo heard about the DOJ's decision? In almost 100% of merger decisions, The DOJ ruling counts for A LOT. The Justice department ruled that it wasn't a monoploy, you geek squad looking freak! Terrestrial radio are the ones who have had a strangle hold on people and limited their listening options for decades. Do you think people are abandoning your shit product for their health? NO, the reason is because your product SUCKS! I have hardly ever seen anyone turn down something that is free, but 20 million people would rather pay their hard earned money, in a horrible economy, than listen to what terrestrial radio has become; boring, predictable, government and corporation controlled, and a God awfull assault to peoples ear drums. It kills me that the NAB has such a problem with satellite radio, but seem to be oblivious to the technologies that just might bury them way sooner: I-phone, internet radio, etc. This is a calculated witch hunt, endorsed fully by our own government, with the sole intention of putting satellite radio out of business.
Plowboy,
give it up, your risky, idiotic investment is gone, "merge" or NO! "merge" scheme your money is GONE. There is ZERO reason for you to continue proving through your posts here just how rude, crude, and classless you are. Keep your blind, ignorance to yourself YOU screwed up and your desperation over a failed investment is continuing to show the ignorance which is plowboy. Dragging others through the mud, and making desperate comments about mass murder to desperately try and save face from YOUR failures are not acceptable.
What does Adelstein say about PAYOLA? What about terrestrial radio paying the artist?
Just when you think it's a matter of 'IF' not 'when'...this stuff happens.
Clearly, you have proven your blind ignorance yet again Gregg.
Your Sad...very sad.
25% of spectrum? No way.
howards not going to like this.i hope he gets phone service and wifi out in the hamptons.poor guy is going to have to spend most of his month long vacation monitoring the situation from the beach house.how does the bush administration get away with ruining howards time off.i wouldn't have believed that our gov't could exploit one citizen like this unless i heard it on howards show.sad day when a man of the people like howard is singled out for presicution.i remember back in '89 when howard invented mergers and aquisition legislation,he never intended the fcc to drag it's feet like this.he signed the bill and rawbin said oooooooooh howard and artie said you rock dude and gary said i can't believe you wrote legislation boss and fred said nothing
ron and fez noon to three
William H Tate meet Ployboy. Ployboy meet William H Tate http://www.lawyers.com/Tennessee/Nashville/Howard,-Tate,-Sowell,-Wilson-and-Boyte,-PLLC-1614022-f.html
I'm sure William is very interested in what you Ployboy chose to posts about his wife, FCC Commissioner Deborah Taylor Tate who you have chosen to ignorantly dis-honor.
Ok, so if this merger is killed then I have a plan. I will work with orbitcast to set up a system whereby we can create a small war chest of money to go after Adelstein and the other commissioners who are trying to use their power to exploit us and these two companies. I will personally contact Sirius and XM to try to get them to help fund this warchest.
We should all contribute about $20. If we get 1000 people, then that would make 20k. I will hire the private investigators and we will dig up all kinds of dirt on these guys. I'm sure Adelstein has prostitutes, drug issues, and/ or gambling issues. We will expose these guys and force them out of office. It's just $20 each... very little money for so much joy it will bring to all of our hearts.
I am absolutely serious about this.
So.... I'm sitting here, with my little typed up form-filled note to Mr. Adelstein. I SO JUST WANT TO PRESS THE SEND BUTTON!!!!!!:
Sir, you were quoted earlier by CNN the following statement regarding the Sirius/XM Deal:
"It's critical that if we're going to allow a monopoly, that we put in adequate consumer protections and make sure they're enforced," Adelstein said.
Sir, I hate to tell you this, but you are very seriously wrong. You may remember that several months ago the Department of Justice ruled that a merge between Sirius and XM Radio was NOT a monopoly, and they approved the merger.
You sir, are lying to the public. You are making false statements.
You need to check your facts sir, you are a public official, and you should be held in contempt. Your department has held this merger captive for over 485 days. Stealing the taxpayers money, and stealing the investors money in Sirius/XM.
Your department, and YOU sir, with this blatant lie, are a disgrace to the US government that you serve. I repeat you SERVE.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE that WE the U.S. citizens allow to serve... US?!
When I invested in satellite radio (a commercial entity) and purchased a subscription, I did not intend to invest in a charity (Georgetown Partners) or want my subscription dollars to subsidize a charity. If I wanted to do that, I would have donated my money to a cause of my choosing. I do not want the FCC making that choice for me, nor do I want the FCC to insist on the inclusion of a competitors hardware be installed in satellite radios hardware, or give away 20% of my investment. Non of this makes any business sense and is just ludicrous.
It is time for the FCC to put an end to this nonsense and approve this merger without conditions, immediately.
Steve send it.
Again blind ignorant NAB fanboys, ronald mcdonald reur scheme is an attempt at a NAB takeover. ronald mcdonald reur started this mess and he and the NAB trolls will now be exposed as blind ignorant NAB donkey's
Thanks AC Annonymous Cumdumpster a.k.a. NAB Troll! Please continue wasting people's valuable time with useless information sidng with greed, arrogance, and ignorance of the NAB fanboy minority.
Peter - I agree 100%. The investers are being raped, and it is with out a doubt CRIMINAL!
AC
give it up, your risky, idiotic scheme is useless. There is ZERO reason for you to continue proving through your posts here just how rude, crude, and classless you are. Keep your blind, ignorance to yourself YOU screwed up and your desperation over a failed NAB takeover is continuing to show the ignorance which is NAB fanboy. Dragging others through the mud, and making desperate comments about how HD radio is the future is a desperate attempt to help you NAB trolls in washington!
75 channels? Are you fucktards serious?
Plowboy's right. She's a sellout.
Maybe XM will take 1.25 less sirius shares to close this deal
Bring it on Suzie... I'm sure it would make a great read for Orbitcast!
As long as it is not a monopoly they should have the same set a-sides that TV, Cable and Traditional Radio have. (much less % than asked for) There is nor fair reason why they should have double the requirements as everyone else AND be paying royalties.
The real negotiation problem here is that Mel already gave up spectrum (gave an inch) and now they are asking for triple that (take a mile). You never give up the concesion until the end days. You say we 'might' be willing to do that. Once it was already agreed to than you knew everyone would ask for 'more'.
First rule of negotiation - 'If I, will you". Otherwise you always get double-dipped.
This deal should be set exactly like all other media deals in regards to set asides.
Otherwise all other deals should have to be upgraded(burdened) too.
THIS IS THE TIME TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT XM/SIRIUS PAYS ROYALTY FEES AND NO-ONE ELSE IS. MAKE THIS FAIR, LEAN ON OTHER PRESIDENCE.
Hey, if it's 25%, all the customers lose 1/8 of their current channels. How is that good for customers?
In order to get an idea of what Sirius and XM have invested in 25% of their spectrum I added each company's revenue from 2002 to 2007 which amounted to $4,866,258,000. Since neither company has posted a profit I also added their combined total debt of $2,960,000,000. Combined, this equals $7,826,258,000 and 25% of this figure is $1,956,564,500.
Senator Markey and Commissioner Adelstein want Sirius and XM to hand over 25% of their spectrum in which these companies have invested $1,956,564,500 since 2002. This figure does not even include the money invested into the spectrum from 1997, when Sirius and XM paid the highest bid during the open auction for this spectrum, through 2001. I believe 8% of the spectrum being reserved for non-commercial programming is more than enough. Currently, this would equate to approximately 24 channels. Using my calculations, Sirius and XM have invested $626,100,640 for this 8% of spectrum, not to mention how much future revenue this would cost the company.
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