i think this will add several hundred thousand subs to sirius with little cost to them this Q--There are many people, especially overseas that would want this and combined with WIFI portable receiver--could be interesting holiday

Cool. They should do this more often...

Wonder why there doing this......

Well, my silly guess would be...ummm...advertising?

This is a good idea. It's already on Slashdot ( http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/16/0327226&from=rss ) and I'm sure it will be on digg shortly.

-Matt

cool. thats a really good point gary. The more ways this product can reach the consumer the better.

The only type of person I can see spending $12.95 for an Internet-only service is anyone outside of the Continental U.S., but $12.95 still seems too high, considering it's the same price that someone pays when they have a receiver and you don't get all the channels. A more attractive price, say $6.95 or $7.95 would be better.

And the idea that this can be combined with the wifi-portables doesn't make sense. If you buy a Stiletto, you have to buy the regular service and you get the lower-quality Internet stream included. You can pay additional if you want the higher quality feed, but you still don't get every station, so it's still limited. Besides, how is the Wifi hotspot proliferation interationally where someone would be able to listen live via the Wifi while somewhere in Korea or Italy or Australia?

Like I said, this service is geared for a specific consumer, and it's perfect for those outside of the U.S., but it should still be cheaper than the full service.

Giving it away for free? He must be failing.

If you've already got Sirius, its 6.99 a month. If you get Sirius Internet for 12.99, Sirius Radio is 6.99. What else do you want?

The $6.99 is for each additional subscription after the initial $12.99 sub. The 128kbps stream is available to current subscribers for an additional $2.99 a month, otherwise you get the lame 32kbps stream that is standard with each unit sub.

The Internet Only service is separate, but it still costs the same as the standard service but with a limited number of channels, albeit it is already in the higher quality stream. Each additional SIR sub is also $6.99 a month.

My point is that it should be less than the standard sub cost.

"My point is that it should be less than the standard sub cost."

Hmmm. I actually agree with you. I know some cheap mutherfuckers who want to hear Stern but don't want to lay out 12.99 a month or buy the hardware. I'm sure there are quite a few folks out there like that.

Don't know what the sweet-spot is pricewise, but cheaper is always better...

You cheap bastards... I'm sorry, but if ANYTHING were to be cheaper, it should be the non-internet version. Internet people don't have to pay for any extra equipment for it to work. If people can't understand that Sirius is more than just Howard Stern, fuck'em.

It has nothing to do with being a cheapskate. It's a limited service. You don't get the same amount of content as a regular subscriber, therefore, it would make sense to discount it. And another thing, why should you, as a subscriber with a unit, who receives all of the channels, pay less? I don't know any industry or company that charges customers less for more features.

With regard to a discounted online-only service, XM does it ($7.95 a month) compared to the $12.95 a month for the standard sub. It's just common business sense, don't you think?

I'll repeat: Internet people don't have to pay for any extra equipment for it to work.

It is more benefitial to the company to have people buy equiptment AND a subscription than just a sub.

I repeat... You don't get the same amount of content.

Alright, look at it this way... Analog vs. Digital cable (from the same company). You have to get a Digital cable box to get the Digital channels, but to get the Digital channels you also have to pay a higher subscription fee than those with just the Analog service.

If I had just Analog service, I wouldn't expect to (nor do I) pay more than those with 100 more channels than me.

obviuosly you still don't get the point. They'd MUCH rather you buy a system and a sub than just a sub. And more importantly, they'd REALLY like you to buy both.

So, if you've already got SiriusReg(like the rest of the smart people), 12.99 doesn't mean shit because you're not going to pay that for the internet package anyway. If you don't have SiriusReg, you'll consider it before the lesser package for the same price....nevermind. I really didn't expect you to understand anyway.

No, it's obvious you don't understand. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD PAY MORE MONEY FOR LESS CONTENT THAN A REGULAR SUBSCRIPTION?!! It isn't going to happen.

Do you understand that the idea is you should make the Internet Only service inexpensive compared to the regular sub because it is limited (and to lure people who aren't quite sure if they'll like it). If they like it, they can then change to a full sub with a unit and then pay more. The idea is to maximize revenues and reduce the cost per custmomer acquisition. If you make the premium service cheaper, you're going against all business logic.

How much simpler can I make it? Obviously, I'm going to have to dumb it down for you because even the cable TV example was too much for you to grasp.

But you certainly have no problem being a dick and writing that someone is stupid for choosing a service other than Sirius. I'm an XM sub, and yet, during this whole discussion, I'm posting from an objective business standpoint and only brought up XM once because they offer their Internet Only service for a lower price.

I have YET to say that Sirius is worthless and sucks even worse than terrestrial, I fucked your mother's skull, your sister gave my dog and cat herpes, your father is an AIDS-infected cuntbag that feels up little boys (crinkle crinkle), and you are an ignorant Stern-zombie faggot, but I can drop to the lowest common denominator. Oh, I just did. I guess I should switch to Sirius now and the transformation to complete and total shit-for-brains douchebag would be complete.

I'm done with your sorry ass.

hahaha. THAT was adorable

Yup. I'm the zombie yet, not only did you just regurgitate a shitty version of a Jim Norton rant, but you mentioned Stern, shitfree radio, AND O&A in your little sissyfit. Like I said, kid... I didn't expect you to understand.

Schimshamity- hate to say it but I kind of agree with the other guy. Equipment doesn't pay the bills the content does.

icepik- sorry your cable argument does not hold water. Cable is a necessary evil. Cable companies do not have to make business decisions like most companies. They have NO competition. Point being they constantly raise prices claiming competition. You do not raise prices because you have competition you lower prices.

BTW you do not NEED a digital cable box to get digital cable. On screen programming and on-demand requires it but where as HDTV stations do not.

WHAT IN THE FUCK IS WITH ALL THESE SURVEYS HOWERD THIS RIDICCULOUS LISTENING SINCE 88 lOVE THE SHOW FAITHFUL LISTENER BE KOOL SINCERLY CRAZY LEGS PHILLY.