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Sirius' post-merger line up

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For those who aren't into reading FCC filings, here's the proposed post-merger A La Carte package line-up for Sirius Satellite Radio.

It's pretty much self-explanatory, so g'head check it out here and after the jump...

Sirius Post-Merger A La Carte Packages

Sirius Post-Merger A La Carte Packages
"Sirius Everything" is pretty much exactly what we have available today. Obviously XM and Sirius will be melding channels together that have overlapping formats.

Sirius Post-Merger A La Carte Packages

Sirius Post-Merger A La Carte Packages
Both A La Carte packages are revolutionary when it comes to media. If the cable companies did this, I guarantee that all of our bills would be lower. Hopefully this will set a precedence, because consumers undoubtedly benefit from this.

Sirius Post-Merger A La Carte Packages
The reason why you don't see specifics for the "select XM" part is because each individual contract needs to be worked out with each content provider. I highly doubt that Sirius or XM have these contract modifications resolved at this point, so "select XM" is what you'll get for now.

Sirius Post-Merger A La Carte Packages

Sirius Post-Merger A La Carte Packages

I would expect a fairly large number of people opting for the Music Only or News/Talk/Sports packages. Many people don't stray beyond 3-4 channels in total.

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Those options sound pretty good. It'll be nice have that flexibility as opposed to sacrificing one good channel for annother... I guess that based on all of this, there really is no question about a merger- right? Here's an interesting tidbit for those still questioning- I read yesterday an article from NewsVisual that talked a lot about the ties between the companies that probably served to be major motivation to partner up ( http://www.newsvisual.com/newsvisual/2007/07/connections-mak.html ). Should make the deal final pretty soon.

So if you're like me and want Howard, NFL and just a few music stations, would that make the a al carte $17.99 ($6.99 + $6.00 + $5.00).

No real savings for some people and I can't see that I'm alone on this.

Ummm... Arlan, you might want to search "FCC", "Public Comment" and "DOJ" on Orbitcast and do some reading to get caught up.

I wonder what would happen If I order "XM Everything and Sirius Everything" on the new reciever? Or could it all be on the new reciever?

Just Keeping Sirius.......$12.95. I think the whole point of the merger was for the companies to MAKE money, and the customers pretty much keep what they have. $12.95
The way it is split up is rough: Howard, NFL, Lithium/Octane/Buzzsaw

1 Shock jocks
2 Sports
3 news/talk
4 music

I cant change anything, or it gets MORE expensive.

Looks like I wont get any XM either, I want all Sirius/XM for about $16.99 when dual radios come out or nuttin.......

I am sure that Baseball, O&A, or Pittsburgh weather and traffic, (like I ONCE HAD at Sirius) are not part of the 11 XM channels.

I hope the merger goes through just so sat rad will be profitable and will stick around, but I think you get a WHOLE lot more for $25.90 than $17.00

so has anyone figured out what channels are dropped after the merger? im too lazy to do it...

I have to admit, I feel the savings will not be as dramatic as XM & Sirius first indicated. But I see the opportunity for some savings.

My goal in all this is to get the few Sirius channels I want, but receive them on my XM hardware, which is much better (IMO) than Sirius hardware.

My guess is that most of the "11 best of Sirius" channels will not be the ones I prefer. Still, I will wait and see. The problem is, I suspect the best of will include Howard, Martha, and NFL, none of which I care for in the least. What I'm looking for, primarily, would be NPR Now, BBC Radio 1, CBC Radios 1 & 3, and possibly Bande a part. Sirius Hits 1, NPR Talk, World Radio Network, RCI Plus, Rock Velours, Energie2, and Iceberg Radio would also be nice, but I don't consider these a must have.

I wouldn't complain if XM dumped Canada 360, Quoi De Neuf, Calendrier Sportif, and XM Scoreboard in order to make room for some of the above either.

What I certainly can see as a money saving step would be to move to the "A La Carte Pick 50 Sirius" plan, as this would allow me to pick almost all the channels I want from Sirius for only $6.99. I might choose to still receive one or two of the 25 cent channels as well, but the monthly bill would still be less than than the current $12.95. The only problem is that those channels won't be receivable on existing equipment, but new equipment might receive both services and/or include a recording function, which would be a great idea.

Would the merger allow them to send up only one set of replacement satellites when the current ones die? That could represent a major cost savings, if so.

As for programming, I don't see the ability to get both MLB and NFL in one package. I hope that I'm wrong.

i would like to see a sirus everything with xm everything plan, very dissapointed

This thing is like Chinese algebra to me. I currently subscribe to both services. Would I be correct in thinking that, no matter what I do, I'm going to end up with fewer channels than I currently have, probably at a higher cost?

I didn't see baseball listed as an option anywhere what I would like is Sirius everything and just the option to add baseball from XM. Baseball is pretty much the only sport made to listen on the radio anyway. I will probably just stick with Sirius everything but the option to get baseball would be nice.

Hey Hoo Hoo. I like the Sirius posters better than the XM posters. They're acually falling for all of this.

You got it Mel. They believe whatever I tell them to believe. Hoo Hoo.

I guess my questions is with Sirius... which I currently have... How will play by play sports work... like football season on Saturday and Sunday... Play by PLay is everywhere....So say I pick channels A La Carte.... and I don't pick Las Vegas Traffic, but the Steeler Football game, that I want... is on the Las Vegas Traffic channel on Sunday... How is that going to work???

Play-by-Play is not available 'ala carte'!

One of the reasons I have been in support of the merger was so that I could 'ala carte' the play-by-play sports. I have XM and I listen to baseball a lot, I wanted the ala carte for the Sirius NFL play-by-play.

Based on the lineups proposed by both XM and Siruius, the Play-by-Play is NOT available ala carte... you still need to have 2 separate subscriptions to get the 'Play-By-Play package of both.

I now see no advantage, for me anyway, for the merger.

Bob

by the looks of things, this merger is not going to benefit anyone but XM and Sirius. At first I was excited about the merger because I would be able to get XM baseball games. I have Sirius and love all their music stations, howard, bubba, ferrall, and my beloved Lions on Sundays, but I really don't see how this merger is going to be any cheaper. XM sucks for music, basically all it has is baseball. Witht he Grateful Dead channel coming to Sirius soon, maybe some XM subscribers will jump ship and Sirius will just put XM out of business.

of course this merger will be cheaper than one company, ie Sirius raising prices so that make a profit at the expense of its customers.

by the looks of things, this merger is not going to benefit anyone but XM and Sirius. At first I was excited about the merger because I would be able to get XM baseball games. I have Sirius and love all their music stations, howard, bubba, ferrall, and my beloved Lions on Sundays, but I really don't see how this merger is going to be any cheaper. XM sucks for music, basically all it has is baseball. Witht he Grateful Dead channel coming to Sirius soon, maybe some XM subscribers will jump ship and Sirius will just put XM out of business.

of course this merger will be cheaper than one company, ie Sirius raising prices so that make a profit at the expense of its customers.

Finally, as the "details" begin trickling in people are starting to wake up and realize this is a bad deal for existing customers. Mel's promises are bullshit. You will not be getting the best of both services, you will not be getting sports from each service, your bill is going to increase and you're going to have to buy new equipment which I highly doubt will fill my needs immediately. When is the 1st portable dual receiver coming to market, will it suck as much as the SL100 and will it even allow recordings the way Inno currently does?

Go with ala carte option #1, add Howard and you're now getting 50 channels for more than you used to pay for all of them.

I don't understand why it's so bad. Can't you just buy two recievers and have one with Sirius everything and the other with XM everything? They are getting really cheap now and you wouldn't have to use a different car kit. It's not like you currently are getting XM's sports on your Sirius reciever.

I was glad to see this finally released to the public. I'm a Sirius subscriber and I love it. To be honest I don't see anything on the XM side that I would want to bring over and it would end up costing me more to go ala carte so I'd probably just leave well enough alone and go with Sirius Everything.

The only thing I might possibly want from XM would be MLB but even that would be pretty pointless for me since I live in my home town and I can just tune to the local AM to listen to baseball.

I have to wonder how the ala carte pricing would effect the future contracts of guys like Howard Stern and Bubba the Love Sponge. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but there isn't a solid method for Sirus to track listeners to these shows. If the only way to get these programs was to specifically subscribe then the powers that be could measure the impact/usefulness of these "shock jocks." I guess same could be said for the other ala carte options - NASCAR, NFL, NBA, MLB, etc, etc...

I assume with my Sirius Lifetime sub I will be receiving "Sirius Everything". Has anyone seen lifetime subs addressed anywhere?

•Dannnn-'I assume with my Sirius Lifetime sub I will be receiving "Sirius Everything". Has anyone seen lifetime subs addressed anywhere?'

Agreed on the waiting for what's happening to the lifetime Sirius memberships still. I emaild Sirius customer care yesterday, about it and I also asked in my question about if there'd be a little bit of incentive to get another lifetime plan for XM after the dual reciever come out. Like a discounted rate, or anything else really that would save money for people that have already invested $500.

And got a response of "We thank you for your concerns in the merger between Sirius and XM, but as of this time no information has been provided to lifetime memberships. Feel free to follow the link provided for more info..." It was the original Sirius press release for the merger from Feb.

I'm hoping in some real info soon so people won't be really pissed if the lifetime is taken away from existing subscibers or not even offered. But after looking at the XM lineups, I'm sure I really can hold off for some extra spending money (way) down the line on getting MLB or NHL. I'm happy with my Sirius the way it is more than ever after seeing it.

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"Sirius Everything" (about 130 channels) is $12.95 but choosing 100 channels will cost you $14.95?

This makes sense to someone?

The way I see it, I ALREADY have "a la carte" in that I have access to ALL the channels and can pick from them what to listen to.

I have a question, too. If they couldn't get people to pay for Opie and Anthony when they were $1/month, what makes them think they can get people to pay $3/month for them now (not to mention $6/month for Stern)?

Prediction: O&A and Stern are toast when their deals are up as the company will now be able to see exactly how many people are willing to pay to listen to them (and it ain't gonna be a happy number).

crankymediaguy,

I see a lot of conversations when people are signing up for $6.99 Sirius asking 'Now that includes Stern right?' and then being pushed to get Everything Sirius when they hear no. And with Stern you're getting two stations if you want to look at it that way...I know it's still $6, but you get All day on one (Howard100), west coast on the other (Howard101)+Bubba the Love Sponge+Ferrall and hourly specials at 7pm and 12am, weekend specials. So there are a lot of programs coming off one of them. But, $6 is just incentive to get ALL or nothing. I don't see another $500M contract, but I think he almost controls if he's staying on Sirius at this point.

And I don't see paying ever for O&A at all when it's FREE already on regular radio...dumbest move ever now, XM.

I have sirius now, and I want O&A. Something tells me that no matter HOW well O&A are doing on XM, they still won't get on the 'top 11' channels available to us. I'm not getting XM service, either, because (a) their rock stations suck primate dick, (b) i want commercial free music, and (c) NFL and NBA. enough said. I'm HIGHLY disappointed by this lineup proposition. Like everyone else has said.. WHERE IS THE "ALL SIRIUS + ALL XM" PRICING?

I listen to about 6 channels. I want to listen to about 4 XM channels. The way they've set it up, if I only wanted to listen to those 10 channels, I'd pay significantly more than I pay now.

I like the XM 50's and 60's music channels better than Sirius. I like the 60's countdown and I also like Wolfmanjack shows. I also like the talk radio dj's better on XM.

I have a question: I have a built in XM in my Acura. Will I be able to switch over to Sirius everything on it after the merger?

> And I don't see paying ever for O&A at all when it's FREE already on regular
> radio...dumbest move ever now, XM.

I live in one of the 37,368 cities in the U.S. that doesn't have O&A on regular radio. Therefore, XM is required here for the O&A fan. I don't know why people (not just you) can't understand something so simple.

so where is the nhl hockey we hoped to get from xm

Can Sirius send Football to XM and Baseball to SIRI birds via land line to each other plus Howard Stern as a freebee since we all suffered through this whole mess with both companies? Mel would make a lot of points with this move.

Can Sirius send Football to XM and Baseball to SIRI birds via land line to each other plus Howard Stern as a freebee since we all suffered through this whole mess with both companies? Mel would make a lot of points with this move.

I'm a Sirius lifetime subscriber, as well as an investor. I'm very concerned about this channel lineup, and specifically, about the way they could turn their backs on their most loyal customers. I shelled out $500 for a lifetime subscription because I believe in the longterm viability of the medium. To turn around and not offer a full subscription package to me after the fact would be absurd.

Here's what my gut tells me:

1) They're not telling the general public about the terms of lifetime subscriptions right now, because they're going to offer a lifetime sub for $899 once the companies merge.

2) All lifetime subscribers will receive all channels, as long as they purchase a receiver that accepts both feeds.

Wall St. won't let them drop subscribers. The stock is already at a very low point, and they need to start turning a profit. Turning on their existing base of subscribers would be the kiss of death.

I'm a Sirius lifetime subscriber, as well as an investor. I'm very concerned about this channel lineup, and specifically, about the way they could turn their backs on their most loyal customers. I shelled out $500 for a lifetime subscription because I believe in the longterm viability of the medium. To turn around and not offer a full subscription package to me after the fact would be absurd.

Here's what my gut tells me:

1) They're not telling the general public about the terms of lifetime subscriptions right now, because they're going to offer a lifetime sub for $899 once the companies merge.

2) All lifetime subscribers will receive all channels, as long as they purchase a receiver that accepts both feeds.

Wall St. won't let them drop subscribers. The stock is already at a very low point, and they need to start turning a profit. Turning on their existing base of subscribers would be the kiss of death.

I'm a Sirius lifetime subscriber, as well as an investor. I'm very concerned about this channel lineup, and specifically, about the way they could turn their backs on their most loyal customers. I shelled out $500 for a lifetime subscription because I believe in the longterm viability of the medium. To turn around and not offer a full subscription package to me after the fact would be absurd.

Here's what my gut tells me:

1) They're not telling the general public about the terms of lifetime subscriptions right now, because they're going to offer a lifetime sub for $899 once the companies merge.

2) All lifetime subscribers will receive all channels, as long as they purchase a receiver that accepts both feeds.

Wall St. won't let them drop subscribers. The stock is already at a very low point, and they need to start turning a profit. Turning on their existing base of subscribers would be the kiss of death.

I don't see Grateful Dead channel. I assume that is just because they had these prepared prior to the channel going live.

jeffsacura- No. Current built in radios will still be specific to XM or Sirius. You will have to get and XM based package with Sirius best of or sports package. They do not expect dual mode built ins to be in cars for two years post merger.

It would be really nice if there was more granularity as far as selection of channels goes... a true ala carte model.

This way, Sirius/XM will know which channels people listen to and can get rid of the ones that generate huge losses. Right now, they only do that to a certain extent.

... and for those bitching about Howard costing $6, keep in mind that Sirius was getting DESTROYED by XM until Howard came onboard. Since then, Sirius has been stealing subscribers from XM and growing like mad. It's no surprise that they have the larger share of the combined company.

The biggest problem in all of this is satellite technology and capacity. They have to make use of both sets of satellites to provide all these channels. Even worse, the XM satellites are geo-stationary and the Sirius satellites are not.

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william said:

"I like the XM 50's and 60's music channels better than Sirius."

Amen, brother. "Sirius Gold" and "60s Vibrations" are the worst programmed streams on Sirius.

So who thinks Howard won't make any mention of his "premium" status? I was all ready to drop back to the $6.95, 50 channel a la carte, but not now -- not if Howard 100/101 aren't available. Thanks, Mel, for screwing us! If they expect us to pay more for Stern, can we expect they will axe the commercials?! I'm tired of hearing lousy voice-overs urging me to buy Bee-Ceuticals. "Give BEES a chance!!" Ugh.

william said:

"I like the XM 50's and 60's music channels better than Sirius."

Amen, brother. "Sirius Gold" and "60s Vibrations" are the worst programmed streams on Sirius.

So who thinks Howard won't make any mention of his "premium" status? I was all ready to drop back to the $6.95, 50 channel a la carte, but not now -- not if Howard 100/101 aren't available. Thanks, Mel, for screwing us! If they expect us to pay more for Stern, can we expect they will axe the commercials?! I'm tired of hearing lousy voice-overs urging me to buy Bee-Ceuticals. "Give BEES a chance!!" Ugh.

william said:

"I like the XM 50's and 60's music channels better than Sirius."

Amen, brother. "Sirius Gold" and "60s Vibrations" are the worst programmed streams on Sirius.

So who thinks Howard won't make any mention of his "premium" status? I was all ready to drop back to the $6.95, 50 channel a la carte, but not now -- not if Howard 100/101 aren't available. Thanks, Mel, for screwing us! If they expect us to pay more for Stern, can we expect they will axe the commercials?! I'm tired of hearing lousy voice-overs urging me to buy Bee-Ceuticals. "Give BEES a chance!!" Ugh.

william said:

"I like the XM 50's and 60's music channels better than Sirius."

Amen, brother. "Sirius Gold" and "60s Vibrations" are the worst programmed streams on Sirius.

So who thinks Howard won't make any mention of his "premium" status? I was all ready to drop back to the $6.95, 50 channel a la carte, but not now -- not if Howard 100/101 aren't available. Thanks, Mel, for screwing us! If they expect us to pay more for Stern, can we expect they will axe the commercials?! I'm tired of hearing lousy voice-overs urging me to buy Bee-Ceuticals. "Give BEES a chance!!" Ugh.

william said:

"I like the XM 50's and 60's music channels better than Sirius."

Amen, brother. "Sirius Gold" and "60s Vibrations" are the worst programmed streams on Sirius.

So who thinks Howard won't make any mention of his "premium" status? I was all ready to drop back to the $6.95, 50 channel a la carte, but not now -- not if Howard 100/101 aren't available. Thanks, Mel, for screwing us! If they expect us to pay more for Stern, can we expect they will axe the commercials?! I'm tired of hearing lousy voice-overs urging me to buy Bee-Ceuticals. "Give BEES a chance!!" Ugh.

How can you get MLB, NFL, NBA, NASCAR, and College Sports? They are still splitting the sports up as Sirius Everything + Select XM or XM Everything + Select Sirius. I would still need to subscribe to both.

Will xms repeaters help sirius? Sirius reception sucks. I have Sirius so should I go xm ala carte? This whole thing might really suck.

Will xms repeaters help sirius? Sirius reception sucks. I have Sirius so should I go xm ala carte? This whole thing might really suck.

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I have CD's and an ipod to listen to music! The only AND I MEN ONLY reason I have sattelite radio is for O&A. If they are dropped so will be my subscription!

Will sirius subscribers get the sports teams that have contracts with XM?

This gives the company power to add programming & require people that paid a onetime fee for a lifetime of service to pay again as the company grows. When will it end?

At first I was excited about the merger because I would be able to get XM baseball games. I have Sirius and love all their music stations, howard, bubba, ferrall, and my beloved Lions on Sundays, but I really don't see how this merger is going to be any cheaper. XM sucks for music, basically all it has is baseball. Witht he Grateful Dead channel coming to Sirius soon, maybe some XM subscribers will jump ship and Sirius will just put XM out of business.