Sirius Stiletto 100 - FOUND

Monday, August 14, 2006 at 9:45 PM
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Sirius Stiletto 100The Sirius Stiletto 100 has been found. What you're seeing here is an enhanced picture taken from Crutchfield's catalog.

This is the first time that we get an actual look into what Sirius' first fully-portable satellite radio receiver form-factor will be (as well as debunk some of the rumors out there). I dig that they're sticking with the black/sleek look, similar to the S50. The "click-wheel" is just begging to have this device compared with the iPod, and the screen just looks HUGE (a big plus).

So, without further delay, here's a rundown of the Stiletto's features:

  • True Portability. The Sirius Stiletto will have a built-in antenna that allows reception of Sirius' signal without the need for an external car-dock or home-dock.
  • Antenna/headphones included. For supplemental reception, you get a Sirius antenna strapped to your noggin - included with the Stiletto.
  • 100 hours of Storage. The Sirius Stiletto handles MP3/WMA, and allows you to intermingle Sirius content with your own digital music collection. The Stiletto supports Microsoft's PlaysForSure protocol.
  • WiFi Capability. The interface (pictured to your right) looks very similar to the Zing interface as SBS points out. I'd it's not too far of a guess to say that the Stiletto is using the Zing's WiFi technology - allowing you to stream Sirius online when you're in a hotspot.
  • Battery Life. Two batteries are included with the packaging. One standard, and one extended life, which offers 4 hours of live SIRIUS reception, 14 hours of WiFi reception, and 22 hours of stored playback time. (The wording is a little fuzzy here - are these numbers from the standard battery? extended battery? or both?)
  • Cost. The Sirius Stiletto will MSRP for $399.99.

[via Sirius Backstage

UPDATE: Crutchfield has confirmed that the Stiletto will be on their website on September 1st and will be in stock in late September. Rumor has it that Circuit City and Best Buy are getting some units this month. 

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ryan, the "extended" battery holds a 22 hour charge during mp3 playback.

Sirius was the first to release a satellite radio incorporating an MP3 player last year. now, they've added streaming sirius.com over Wifi. not only a first in the satrad industry, but also a first in the mp3 arena.

wifi support allows you to take your radio over seas. now our boys in iraq and afgan can get their stern fix, plus listen to their favorite nfl team all the way through the superbowl. this also means there is no real need for a home kit.

the stiletto is 1 sexy radio! bravo sirius...bravo! its going to be very hard to retire my S50.

i patiently await agheres opinion...

Damn, I guess I shouldn't have thrown out last week's Crutchfield catalog without looking at it. That'll teach me!

I dig it and it would probably be used more than the PS3 I'd buy instead.

I thought Mel(or someone within that realm) was saying it was going to have an extreme amount of battery life. 4 hours is the same amount as my inno.

By what that says, you can ONLY record music in blocks and not individually.

Now we have ask......is the internet stream the full lineup of channels or like the disabled internet stream? Because due to the shortage of terrestrial antennas for Sirius you will probably have to rely on the internet stream for your live experience.

XM got it right with the Inno. Cosmetically the Stilleto seems to be a failure. Mabye next year both of these companies will have a really incredible unit.

I'd rather have an Inno, but this device seems pretty cool. The Wi-Fi function is a nice touch. Sirius will do a good job promoting this, unlike XM with the Inno and the other one.

It actually says that you can record song by song similar to the Inno or s50.

I'd rather be under a porch with Jim Nordon, than buy this device. With this waste of money I can't listen to the Opie and Anthony show.

Alright! Barring anymore delays,September 2006!

If I were a Sirius subscriber I think I'd be torn between getting one of these and enjoying it or going down to my local Best Buy and urinating all over one of the displays.

It's about time.

How has XM failed to promote the inno? Showing it and the Helix in all of its commercials lately and having commercials JUST FOR the inno/Helix. It's not exactly the easiest thing to sell a service and sell a high priced reciever at the same time.

Jackmeoffer... it says you can go song by song and integrate recorded content with MP3's but it DOES NOT say that you can record song by song. If you have to record in blocks then it will render its recording function heavily. Having to wait for the recording function to finish before changing the channel could prove to be this devices biggest downfall.

I'll take two please !

Why couldn't XM make something this cool ? ...Because Panero just got outdone by Melvin again !

Beautiful unit with the features I want !

I bought the INNO and took the thing back. Poor reception. Looks like Sirius has that solved !

Sign me up Sirius !

you can record song by song (using the "love" button). it mentions you can record in sessions up to 6 hours. the s50 was limited to only 4 hours.

typical ahigee. sirius comes out with a great piece and he tries hard to bash it. is that the best you cn do ahigee? weren't you the 1 saying there was no way it would have a built in antenna plus wifi?

joe blow said "Cosmetically the Stilleto seems to be a failure"

someone better tell steve jobs that the click wheel is a "failure" of a design.

there is more info coming down the pipe very soon to clear up some confusion. this is an AMAZING product. you can not deny that. there will be nothing on the market to compete.

eric sbreath said "With this waste of money I can't listen to the Opie and Anthony show."

i have a $15.00 battery operated fm radio that gets the o&a show everymorning. even that $15 sems too much to spend to listen to those losers...man they suck! LMFAO!!!!

"The Stiletto supports Microsoft's PlaysForSure protocol.

Eccch. Does that mean all the recorded content is crippled by that shitty Microsoft DRM? If so, I wonder if it will work with my Mac at all? I'm intrigued, but I won't rush out to buy one until I know it works with a Mac. 1st generation hardware is always a gamble anyway...

Does that mean all the recorded content is crippled by that shitty Microsoft DRM?
Only the stuff you buy, not the stuff you already have. The stuff you record isn't movable off the unit (like the Inno).

I'm getting a Mac in a few days. Cool beans.

Ahigee, read the "Storage Galore" section of the cruthfield article...

"When you record Sirius content, you can go song by song, and combine those songs with your MP3's and WMA's for a spectacular playlist. you can also record programming in blocks up to 6 hours each, and you can schedule up to 100 recordings in advance."

You'd think they would have done a better job promoting it than 'reveal' it in a catalog. And the Crutchfield catalog I got last week didn't have it...

Ugly...so what was that brick Mel waved around anyway?

Nice photo. I'm sure it will be a nice device, perhaps a great device. It all depends on:

1. live reception -- if it is not good, the device is doomed

2. WiFi -- neat concept, not something I would use, but if it works and sounds good, it could make up for reception shortfalls (if there are any)

3. Size - unclear, but it does look longer than the Inno/Helix, but more narrow -- the thickness may be more than those devices

4. Software -- The S50 had problems that you would think would be fixed in this unit.

Bottom line -- we can speculate all we want -- we have to let some of the SBS guys get their hands on one and review it. While it will likely be a somewhat biased review, it will be fair -- DAB's reviews are rather balanced -- if the unit has a problem, he will not sugar coat it. I'm looking forward to his review -- he goes into great detail.

If you notice how the back of it is white, and the thing Mel showed looked white, they seem to be very similar devices. All i can say is : Its about time.

Wow, the case design is hideous and looks very uncomfortable for your hand. I hope it's not as chunky as it looks.

I listen to Howard. I dont care if I listen to the show with wi-fi or with live signal, either way is good for us Stern junkies! I also intend on uploading the shows I record at home in mp3 format to it. Way to go Sirius! This is just the beginning

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ryan, the "extended" battery holds a 22 hour charge during mp3 playback.

Sirius was the first to release a satellite radio incorporating an MP3 player last year. now, they've added streaming sirius.com over Wifi. not only a first in the satrad industry, but also a first in the mp3 arena.

wifi support allows you to take your radio over seas. now our boys in iraq and afgan can get their stern fix, plus listen to their favorite nfl team all the way through the superbowl. this also means there is no real need for a home kit.

the stiletto is 1 sexy radio! bravo sirius...bravo! its going to be very hard to retire my S50.

i patiently await agheres opinion...

Posted by: Philmore | August 14, 2006 10:31 PM

Damn, I guess I shouldn't have thrown out last week's Crutchfield catalog without looking at it. That'll teach me!

Posted by: Dave Zatz | August 14, 2006 10:35 PM

I dig it and it would probably be used more than the PS3 I'd buy instead.

Posted by: Schimshamity | August 14, 2006 11:49 PM

I thought Mel(or someone within that realm) was saying it was going to have an extreme amount of battery life. 4 hours is the same amount as my inno.

By what that says, you can ONLY record music in blocks and not individually.

Now we have ask......is the internet stream the full lineup of channels or like the disabled internet stream? Because due to the shortage of terrestrial antennas for Sirius you will probably have to rely on the internet stream for your live experience.

Posted by: ahigee | August 14, 2006 11:51 PM

XM got it right with the Inno. Cosmetically the Stilleto seems to be a failure. Mabye next year both of these companies will have a really incredible unit.

Posted by: Joe Blow | August 15, 2006 12:04 AM

I'd rather have an Inno, but this device seems pretty cool. The Wi-Fi function is a nice touch. Sirius will do a good job promoting this, unlike XM with the Inno and the other one.

Posted by: johnnygriswold | August 15, 2006 12:19 AM

It actually says that you can record song by song similar to the Inno or s50.

"Posted by: JackMehoffer | August 15, 2006 01:09 AM

I'd rather be under a porch with Jim Nordon, than buy this device. With this waste of money I can't listen to the Opie and Anthony show."

obviously not an o&a fan. It's "Norton"

Great features, but it is still $400. Nobody I know can afford that.

Also, the wheel looks more mechanical than iPod-like...

well, if it is as good as the INNO .. then does this open the door for another RIAA lawsuit? As for comments on the functionality of this new sirius device... untill its out no one really knows what it will and will not do.

Looks pretty cool so far.

I'm a bit puzzled with the Wifi. Don't most Wifi areas need a browser to log in? Does the Stilleto offer a browser log in? Also, do you get ALL of Sirius' content or just the music/Stern?

Battery life is still a huge dissapointment on these portables.

This looks like a nice effort, but we've yet to put it to the test.

You will get the same offering as the current Sirius Online package when using the Wifi. Sirius doesnt pay the rights to broadcast say the NFL online.

thanks for posting ryan. this makes up for the slow news day yesterday. and to think just yesterday I told people that we will see it this week.

[obviously not an o&a fan. It's "Norton"]

He is an O&A fan. "Nordon" is not a typo or mistake, but an O&A reference.

Regarding the Stiletto, what's the size of this thing? It looks like it's about the same size as the S50 in the catalog pics.

That is hawt!

I want one!!

Time to start saving the money.

Another question, why have a standard and extended battery? Why not just put the extended battery in the unit to begin with?

Also, who is the manufacturer? We know it's not Directed Electronics. They are the distributor, just like they were for the S50.

Ryan, comments?

The only problem I have with this device is what is it? Does it receive, live, satellite radio over the air? Does it do this via antenna to the sattelite? Or does it only do it from WIFI? If its the latter, this doesn't solve the problem that Sirius does not have a truly portable unit. What about people in NYC who commute via rail/bus? What solution exists other than XM?

I won't critize until i hold it in my hand. The features seem good. I hate to say it, but i can't pay $400 for a portable. Knock it in half and we have a deal.

Wow...but if its 400 dls, nevermind.

Where I am it costs $3.00 per day or $20.00 per month to use the wifi connection Im not willing to pay an xtra 20 bux a month for that wannabe portable sat radio. I will stick with my inno and get true live reception.

working in an electronics store in the car audio dept., i have increasingly seen a shift in power from xm to sirius. that's fact, we've gone from selling virtually no sirius a few years ago to selling mostly sirius now. not to mention all the inno returns we have had since carrying it. the s100 will be live portable, and come with antenna headphones and an extra battery....inno/helix can't say that. also, i've had customers coming in complaining about how a few of xm's music channels now play commercials.(freakin' clear channel). i have also noticed sirius making the effort to draw customers as opposed to xm who have made little effort to move ahead. if you ask me, from a person who used to have xm, sirius is the way to go and the s100 is gonna blow the inno/helix out of the water. oh, and the size of the unit is supposed to be about 40% thinner than the s50.

Wistron-Neweb is making this unit as far as I know, they're best known for making the ever-popular Starmate Replay and Starmate. Directed will distribute it.

The UI screenshot looks a modified version of the ZING UI. It's safe to assume that this is a total redesign in software from the S50. However, the S50 will apparently be continued through the Christmas season at least.

I think you'll find that the 400$ is a NOW price, but we'll see discounts and/or rebates eventually, maybe as early as Christmas season. Sirius could pretty easily release a 4gb version too later in time as NAND costs go down.

I suspect XM will refresh their Inno/Helix to 2gb before Christmas. This should be trivial for them to do.

As for 'browser logins' (I.e. Captive portal) for hotspots, such as Tmo Hotspot, there are ways to work around that. After all, the Nintendo DS can use Tmo Hotspots.

We should see an official announcement soon and more information. I have some minor concerns, but those concerns mostly have to do with application of the technologies into the software.

--D

I just wanted to clear this up for Realitycheck and smashingPanther...

The Stiletto will receive live sirius signal on the go. either using the built in antenna, or the headphone antenna(included in the pkg). The Wifi is a great option for consumers who have wifi at their jobs and dont have access to a window. they can sit at work and listen to all of sirius' music channels, plus howard stern.

waterwagen: The ipod is uncomfortable in my hand.

The nexus is crappus!!!!

I love this unit, I think it looks so AWESOME!!!!!

Can't wait to buy one myself.

F*#K O&A!!!

The Stiletto looks cool and so do Inno and Helix for XM. But they are all very pricey, have limited battery life for listening to live broadcast, and the antenna systems are not very good.
If you want low cost LIVE Sirius or XM, you can convert just about any inexpensive 'plug and play' Sirius or XM radio to LIVE portable that runs on AA or AAA common batteries with XSTAR. Check out xstar in ebay store. Prices start at $49. While XSTAR is more about function than style, if you want a basic way of receiving live broadcast just about anywere, XSTAR is the way to go. Look how compact it is with Sirius S50 or XM Sportscaster. Check out the ebay feedback too. 100% positive.

I'm selling my XM Sportscaster and Starmate Replay (with the car and home kits) just to get this baby.

I hope the reception is good indoors for this badmofo.

It is about time Sirius caught up with XM with technology. It will be about this time next year that Sirius surpasses XM is subscribers. just saying

"Wistron-Neweb is making this unit as far as I know, they're best known for making the ever-popular Starmate Replay and Starmate. Directed will distribute it."

"The UI screenshot looks a modified version of the ZING UI."

Droo, thanks for that info!

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"I think you'll find that the 400$ is a NOW price, but we'll see discounts and/or rebates eventually, maybe as early as Christmas season."

....at a huge cost to SIRI's SAC. This will reduce the chance that SIRI will be CFBE for 2007. Not that any investors care anymore. At the rate these two companies spend, spend, spend, it'll be a miracle if they make it to 2010.

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"As for 'browser logins' (I.e. Captive portal) for hotspots, such as Tmo Hotspot, there are ways to work around that. After all, the Nintendo DS can use Tmo Hotspots."

Is this work around legal or illegal? I'm no WiFi expert.

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"...not to mention all the inno returns we have had since carrying it. the s100 will be live portable..."

Sirius can't offer any better live reception than XM, in fact, it'll be worse due to the lack of an established repeater network. This is why they included WIFI. And, hopefully, it will work well.

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"Where I am it costs $3.00 per day or $20.00 per month to use the wifi connection Im not willing to pay an xtra 20 bux a month for that wannabe portable sat radio."

Is there really a cost for certain WiFi areas? I was not aware that businesses charge. Anyone confirm this?

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SatRadFan, decent businesses like Panera Bread offer free wifi and some are pretty good. The last one I used I was out in the middle of the parking lot and got a nice signal. Other times I had been next to the building and it was hard to keep the signal. Hotels are usually free although some give you a log in digits because it is secure.

Scumbag business like Starbucks charge for the service. Airports charge (the ones that I have been in) charge.

Another interesting point that I read some where. The Nintendo DS (i'm pretty sure) can contect to a secured wireless network (i.e. starbucks) for nothing. So no computer/browser based systems might be able to use the signal.

Well, just got my Stilleto....

First the disappointing stuff. Keep in mind, this is "out of the box", not using any of the docking stations.

1. No ability to charge while using USB to PC or Satellite antenna headphones. The plug for both will not allow the charging adapter to be plugged in simultaneously.

2. No indicator of any kind while the unit is charging(while unit is off) Manual claims it should be in off position for best charging.

3. The internal antenna doesnt seem to work that great, even outdoors. During activation while standing outside with a clear view of the sky(southwest from my location) it could not receive the activation signal. It did however update the channels. As soon as I plugged in the antenna headphones the unit activated and signal strength was 100%.

Now for the positives.

The unit is everything you would expect and then some. It works rather well indoors with the headphone antenna. There are of course dead spots.

The WiFi is a nice feature, especially if you want to listen around the house on your wireless network, the recption is better indoors with WiFi in those dead spots. Its very easy to use. Finding free public open WiFi hotspots probably wont be all that easy, but if you are out and about, you should be able to receive satellite signal with either the internal or external antenna.

I have not yet put any of my own content on from PC, but plan to shortly.

The scroll wheel is nice, make for easy one-handed operation. Screen is large and bright, easily readable in sunshine as well.

The earbuds included function well. The antenna headset is somewhat awkward. They fit reasonably well, although they sit off your head about a 1/2 inch or so, making it just about impossible to wear a hat or any other type of head gear. They are very light, you dont notice them much when you are wearing them.

Overall its a very nice unit. It delivers everything it promises. I am curious to see if it performs as well indoors in commercial building as has my Sportster Replay in the boombox does. With that I rarely have found any building where I was not able to get any signal whatsoever. If the Stiletto performs as well, it will be a knockout device. I do wish the internal antenna performed better.

I will make another post after using it for a day or so.

Just wanted to make a correction on what this last poster said... You don't have to worry about plugging in the charger when it's in USB mode because it charges through the USB port, much like an ipod.
I've gotta say, I'm over-pleased with mine. The only complaints I have are the lack of an internal FM transmitter, & no clock functions. I've had portability for a year now with my Xact Stream Jockey and power pod (albiet it's HUGE size was cumbersome) and got used to excellent portable reception where I live. When I got the Stiletto, I noticed no change in my ability to get a signal while in transit. I've only had to use the antenna boosting headphones when travelling on the interstate. This is an impressive device, that met and exceeded my expectations..

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