holy shit. Someone fired for irresponsible journalism? He has no conflict of interest yet he was just on O&A again. looks really good for his credibility.

How is being on O&A a conflict of interest? That's like saying a food critic can't go to restaurants in his spare time.

More proof of Sterns behind the scenes crap that O&A have claimed for years and Sean Hannity confirmed.

By the way, to the first commenter, you heard Mainelli on Opie and Anthony? That just happened. You are obviously a Stern fan, why aren't you listening to him? Oh that's right, Stern doesn't work on Friday's. You must be proud of your hero

I think it's great that piece of shit got what he deserved. The only surprize to me is that the Post showed any journalistic integrity at all...

That food critic can't then make up a story about a rat he saw in the competitor's kitchen, Can he?

The dude is a terrestrial radio schill. He can't not disclose the fact that he's a consultant to one side and then right rumor stories about the other.

If he has any basis to stand on, he'd sue. But he doesn't so he's fucked.

"...that's like saying a food critic can't go to restaurants in his spare time."

Wrong, idiot. That's like a food critic taking money and free meals from a retaurant then writing a bad review about the competing restaurant across the street.

"I'm very disappointed, and I'm really pissed at Howard Stern," Mainelli said. "From now on, anything I write about him will have to have a disclaimer: John Mainelli has an ax to grind against this man."

So how could anyone ever believe what this scumbag will ever write again?

Thanks to our boy, Steve Langford!!!

The only surprize to me is that the Post showed any journalistic integrity at all...

although what John may have done or not might be shady i think the Post is just as bad when they avoid giving O&A positive press because of their friendship with Howard .

wtf

Stern fan or not, this guy deserved it, now only if we can get the same type of credibility/eithics in the rest of the reporting world...or even politics...we would all be in a better place.

one word

Pwned!

This guy is pathetic. Yeah, riiiiighhhht, he is the victim here. He has an obvious bias due to his other intersts. He jumped on a story because it supported his other interests and he probably wanted it to be true. That itself is not so bad but he did not disclose his other interests. And the whole thing ends up being untrue. So how is this Howard Sterns fault?!?!? Besides, he was not fired. He was told that he had to remove his conflict of interest.

Heck, most places that I have ever worked have made me sign a paper stating that I have no conflict of interests, and I will not do any work in the same industry while I am employed. So I do no see how this ultimatum is so outlandish.

[I]"I'm very disappointed, and I'm really pissed at Howard Stern," Mainelli said. "From now on, anything I write about him will have to have a disclaimer: John Mainelli has an ax to grind against this man."[/I]

Like he didn't already have an axe to grind. Love stern or hate him Mainelli is a scum bag liar.

the squeaky wheel wrote: "More proof of Sterns behind the scenes crap that O&A have claimed for years and Sean Hannity confirmed."

WOw, you're not so bright. You obviously don't see the big picture here. Why don't you read the article another 50 times, maybe then you'll get it.

Bravo to Steve Langford for going after this guy. John M. should never touch a pen, typrewriter, or computer again for the rest of his career. What a hack job he turned out to be.

Maybe this will be enough that reporters stop "smearing" his name? Or maybe even stop reporting on him all together.
Ok terrific.

Mainelli had a major conflict of interest with his hidden consulting gig for terrestrial radio that he never disclosed. His journalism gig with the Post was a freelance one, so he was forced to choose, and it's obvious where the money is, with the consulting gig.

I wouldn't necessarily say that Stern got him fired, but he probably would not have caught the ire of the Editor had it not been for the article.

jeez, what a scumbag.

"More proof of Sterns behind the scenes crap that O&A have claimed for years and Sean Hannity confirmed."

What behind-the-scenes crap? Listen, moron, Mainelli was lying to further his own interests and Stern called the fucker on it.

God, you're stupid...

FUCKING TYPEKEY

Did this dick comment on stern in the third person? Look at the last paragraph. what are you terrell owens now? 'I love me some me'. How can people be on this guys side or give him any sympathy? A piece of shit journalist finally got his due.

Stern did NOT get Mainelli fired. Mainellli got Mainelli fired! Paid shill for terrestrial radio thinks he can get away with this crap???

Correction on Title of Post.

It should read, "John Mainelli gets John Mainelli Fired."

"Stern did NOT get Mainelli fired. Mainellli got Mainelli fired!"

Exactly. Guy's like Mainelli (and the NY Post, which is essentially a shill for the Bush administration) make it difficult for real journalists to be taken seriously. I don't believe for a second that the powers-that-be at the Post didn't know about his job on the side. They were only forced to act when the facts became public.

HAHA...Steve Langford uncovered this douchebag. Howard ws absolutley right about there being a conspiracy against him and satellite radio. How can a reporter be objective and at the same time have a hand in the interests of terrestrial radio?

The funniest was when he threatened Langford.

Nice work STEVE, you ankle biting bastard!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> Howard ws absolutley right about there being a conspiracy against him and satellite radio >>

If there's any conspiracy, the only logical explanation is because he's made quite a few enemies in the radio business and beyond. I'm not saying you have to kiss the ass of everyone you ever work with, but if you piss off enough important people, eventually it's going to come back and bite you.

And what exactly was the harm in throwing out a rumor that Howard was 'coming back to terrestrial'? As some of the comments on this site point out, it's publicity. I thought *any* publicity was good publicity...

Guess not. However this sets a bad precedent - so now anyone who prints a false rumor about the almighty Stern is eligible to lose their job?

>> How can a reporter be objective and at the same time have a hand in the interests of terrestrial radio? >>

I'm not seeing the connection here. Is terrestrial radio somehow paying for news coverage in the local papers? Radio columnists can write about whatever they choose - be it terrestrial or satellite. There's no 'hand' or 'special interest' in one format or the other.

Howard should be happy to be written about at all, what with the little press satellite receives, and move on. This just seems petty and beneath someone of his magnitude.

I agree with Pete. Publicity is great no matter if it is good or not. Just look at all the free publicity Stern gets from O&A.

On another note. How the hell did O&A have better coverage of 9-11 than Howard. They weren't even on the radio at the time. Didn't they do afternoons at the time. Live as it happens reporting seems more beneficial to me than a couple hours late. But tell you what you provide a link to the O&A 9-11 show and I will listen and come to my own conclusion. Bubba coverage was probably better than o&a's and I only heard 3 minutes of it a couple of weeks ago.

>>However this sets a bad precedent - so now anyone who prints a false rumor about the almighty Stern is eligible to lose their job?

How can that be a "bad precedent"? Anyone who prints false rumors about ANYONE should be fired. The media is a disaster these days, the only way to fix it is to get hardass and get rid of anyone who isn't unbiased, and make sure that every story is fact-checked and researched. Rumors (true or not) should not be reported on. Leave rumor-reporting to the supermarket tabloids.

>> How can that be a "bad precedent"? Anyone who prints false rumors about ANYONE should be fired. >>

We're talking about a radio show here, not rumors as in, "All planes flown by Continental are more vulnerable to terrorist attacks".

C'mon now, get real. It's entertainment, and Minelli writes an op-ed piece. He's entitled to his opinion about Stern's celebrity guests, and like I said before the terrestrial rumor isn't doing anything to hurt Stern's career.

o/a local new york numbers came out the same day as the stern rumor.instead of writing about new york numbers JM wrote about stern , not his friends o/a.
its JM's fault for writing the wrong story.

OWNED

>>>>>And what exactly was the harm in throwing out a rumor that Howard was 'coming back to terrestrial'? As some of the comments on this site point out, it's publicity. I thought *any* publicity was good publicity...

The (almost) direct quote was, "Stern has decided to flee the failing Sirius Satellite ship". That's not opinion. That can cause direct harm to Sirius the company. That's bullshit and you know it. Please stop spinning.

Anyone who says they've listened to the show and say he has lost his edge is a shill fuck.

"And what exactly was the harm in throwing out a rumor that Howard was 'coming back to terrestrial'?"

Are you just a naive idiot? Or is that a poor attempt at sarcasm? I'm guessing the former...

The harm could be potentailly be hugely damaging...

1) The stock price - This could potentially throw Sirius' stock price (and XM's since they seem to coincide) even lower, thus costing alot of people and the industry as a whole millions of dollars. Unless, of course, you're a piece of shit like John Mainelli and have a vested interest in Testical Radio Stock doing well. Then false rumors like that are great!!

2) Perception - Howard leaving for testical radio would irrevocably damage Sirius' credibility and, again by extension, XM, since the two are thought of as one by alot of investors. O/A can go back to testical radio since they were never viewed as anything but desperate, anyway. Stern, is, and always will be, the biggest personality in radio history. Satellite Radio would be viewed as a failed experiment. Mainelli wants it to fail. Thus the lies.

3) Integrity - Mainelli has none. He's a piece of garbage. Journalists are not supposed to print lies. Many do. Thus the sad state of distrust the press endures nowadays. We just assume the Gov't is inherently corrupt and for sale. We used to rely on the Press to expose that, or at least try to... What was it called? The Fourth Estate?

I guess Howard is the victim...again. Does anyone believe that anymore?

Freedom of speech? For him, sure, but not for anyone else.

The NY Daily News ran a story about John Mainelli being a radio consultant in 2004 (ironically, the same article also mentions Howard Stern was looking to start a radio network with Mainelli, did Stern mention that?), so this was not "uncovered".

The NY Post always knew he was a radio consultant, and they made sure his consulting work didn't conflict with his freelance writing for them.

I heard Mr. Stern go after a CNBC reporter for reporting a similar story - When he found out she had been a child actress, he was calling her stupid, they were saying she probably was failed actress or wannabe stripper.

Howard said she was a "bozohead" and that he "guaranteed" she went to some ridiculous college (turns out she went to Harvard). I'd say that's a false rumour - so, should Stern lose his job? Some posts on this board seem to think that's the way it should be.

But he's got that free speech....

Then he said - out of nowhere - that many of his listeners were fire and police men (which I'm sure is true), and some had died during 9/11(also,and sadly I don't doubt for a moment that's true, too), so she was disprespecting them.

HUH?

It made no sense whatsoever. Even if he felt she had somehow disrespected his audience, the topic had nothing to do with 9/11. NOTHING. It sounded insane.

>>>>I guess Howard is the victim...again. Does anyone believe that anymore?

Freedom of speech? For him, sure, but not for anyone else.

Stern isn't a reporter. Stop being stupid. I know with the rise of Cable News networks blurring the lines between truth and spin, I'm sure you can understand that a smidge of intergrity should maintain. Entertainers like howard and O&A don't abide by the same code of ethics as journalist.

>>>The NY Post always knew he was a radio consultant, and they made sure his consulting work didn't conflict with his freelance writing for them.

And what happens when it does conflict(which it did)? You fire him for being a shill and a sneaky dick. Again, please stop playing dumb people.

I think SuzyS hasn't had her mega-dose of lithium today. She's making even less sense than usual....

It's sad, really.

suzy , what howard did to o/a had nothing to do with free speach it had everything to do with respect.lets say someone hires you to work at a company and that company does so well that the company stars more companys
that are just like yours and one of those companys comes on the scene and starts saying shit about you and your family.a company you helped build from the ground up and is the one that still makes money for that company , you would do something to.

as for JM like i said before he chose to do a story on stern , hes a piad shill for radio radio feels threatend by stern there you go.

>> Are you just a naive idiot? Or is that a poor attempt at sarcasm? I'm guessing the former...>>

Howard got his name in the press - in my book, that's 'good' for Howard. Next question.

>> The harm could be potentailly be hugely damaging...

1) The stock price - This could potentially throw Sirius' stock price (and XM's since they seem to coincide) even lower, thus costing alot of people and the industry as a whole millions of dollars. Unless, of course, you're a piece of shit like John Mainelli and have a vested interest in Testical Radio Stock doing well. >>

A) So you're indirectly claiming that Minelli has some stock in terrestrial radio? Link, please.

B) that's pretty darned laughable that Sirius has so much money tied up in Stern that their entire company would tank if he left. Did I say laughable? Oh sorry, I meant 'stupid'. And if this was so potentially 'damaging' to Sirius as a corporation, where was the lawsuit filed by the company? I guess Howie speaks for the entire platform now? Truly sad that a company with some shred of integrity would let a shock jock dictate the financial direction of their company.

Oh, and if you're going to deny that notion, then it pretty much derails your entire post.

>> 2) Perception - Howard leaving for testical radio would irrevocably damage Sirius' credibility and, again by extension, XM, since the two are thought of as one by alot of investors. O/A can go back to testical radio since they were never viewed as anything but desperate, anyway. Stern, is, and always will be, the biggest personality in radio history. Satellite Radio would be viewed as a failed experiment. Mainelli wants it to fail. Thus the lies. >>

No, it would ruin *Howard's* integrity since he spent the better part of a year trashing commercial radio and whoring Sirius, and he'd look like the world's biggest hypocrite if he went back.

Not sure what O&A have to do with this, but leave it to people like yourself to bring it up in a completely irrelevant situation. That said, Minelli was writing about O&A when they first moved to XM and for a while was seemingly their only ally at the NY Post. Opie's praised Minelli on the show in the past when they were getting press in the XM-exclusive days.

>> 3) Integrity - Mainelli has none. He's a piece of garbage. Journalists are not supposed to print lies. Many do. Thus the sad state of distrust the press endures nowadays. We just assume the Gov't is inherently corrupt and for sale. We used to rely on the Press to expose that, or at least try to... What was it called? The Fourth Estate?>>

I didn't exactly see anyone on here railing Minelli until he typed up some rumors about Howie. Until then he was a harmless radio columnist who had a right to his opinion As I said before, it's entertainment. What goes into those columns should mean as much as the celebrity gossip they spew out on E! or in the Enquirer.

I agree that the press can be despicable at times - the basis for a lot of material on O&A's show, incidentally - but even you would have to see the difference between spreading rumors about a *radio show* and covering up instances of torture & death in Iraqi prisons. Stern really needs to come to grips with his own sense of self-importance, IMO.

There's honestly no need to have someone fired over a radio show. If Sirius files suit and deems this matter worthy of financial importance, then I'll see it differently.

Another Thought- Haven't listened to this in a while, but here's the link to O&A from 9/11/01.

http://afro202.com/911/O&A%2009-11-2001.mp3

You are right that O&A were doing afternoons at the time on WNEW. I honestly don't think you can compare the two shows on that day, because one was while it was happening and the other was after all the information was in and there was more reflection going on.

I can tell you that I wasn't listening to Stern here in NYC that morning, my ears were glued to news radio on 880 WCBS and 1010 WINS and looking out my building's window at the horrific sight right in front of us. And I don't even remember listening to O&A that day either. I heard this after it was posted sometime afterwards.

>> suzy , what howard did to o/a had nothing to do with free speach it had everything to do with respect. >>

Free 'speach', eh? That's a new one.

Howard mentioned something about the supposed lack of respect by O&A on Hannity's show, and that just shows what kind of complete ass he really is.

They goofed on him a *little* bit, and he couldn't handle it. Ran to Mel, blah blah blah - we all know the story.

It's like the old saying about dishing it out, and not being able to take it. IMO, Stern absolutely PERSONIFIES that old saying.

>> You are right that O&A were doing afternoons at the time on WNEW. >>

Yup, I didn't I listen live because I was off that day and was watching everything on TV, but I've downloaded it and listened since then.

It was on 9-11, I believe, that they first struck up a friendship with Sean Hannity...

pete you act like stern brought this on him self.
he didn't start the fude.o/a did.

Just because you type a lot, doesn't mean its not all bullshit. All that is coming from the same person who claims "Howard made O&As lives miserable at WNEW".

Sternfan73, Oh i get it. It was o and a who put the gg order on themselves... thanks for clearing that up, it was confusing me for years.

"Sternfan73, Oh i get it. It was o and a who put the gg order on themselves... thanks for clearing that up, it was confusing me for years."

LOL, when you guys get out of the burger joints you work at and go work for a bigger company you will learn, fuck with someone more powerful then you in the same company, you are in for a world of hurt....cause they will get you sooner or later.

Even stern got his, one company would not pay him, another sued him, clear channel sued and would not pay him....hey he fucked with all those bosses for all those years ane it was payback time.

Guess what Stern was power compaired to O&A, they fucked with Stern and got SERVED....get over it. its life get used to it...
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"O&A say I invented everything. I didn't invent everything...JUST THEIR ACT."

thank you PNess, you got my point.

"I cant take fridays off..... if your not there on fridays you are doing a disservice to the audience"

Thats for PNess, just because he loves stern quotes.
http://www.doublewidz.com/ssfileupload/store/Smoking_Gun_RE_Howard_s_4_day_work_week_.mp3

So... instead of saying hey guys, you are good radio personalities, do you want to help me, promote me, he said I'll just shut you up because you're better than me...

Think about it. If stern and O and A had teamed up years ago they would be an unstoppable force.

By the way.... I am the owner of a Computer diagnostics Co.....

stern is an unstopable force why would he need
o/a

Unstoppable?...

Posted by PNess-- "Even stern got his, one company would not pay him, another sued him, clear channel sued and would not pay him....hey he fucked with all those bosses for all those years ane it was payback time."

So...Unstoppable, right?

Just because stern is not on the air does not mean he is NOT doing his job. I am entertained on fridays just as much as the other 4 days.

BTW that was an OLD clip. If he said that sometime within the last 1 or 2 years it might be worth mentioning.

I guess I should cancel my sub though. I can get stern on FreeFM now.

good job on deflecting the question.

why would stern need o/a?

Well...considering his actual listeners at this point... think what O and A would do for him. If O and A were on XM and Stern still on Sirius, the boys could say to check out Stern's show and stern would increase his listeners...

Your question is also flawed.... Stern doesn't "need" anything it would be beneficail for him. A TV doesn't "need" a remote...but it sure is a hell of a lot easier...

Look back to my original comment... I never said Stern needed o and a. You just added that to try to make a point that wasn't there.

Sternfan73, I did not mention O&A, not once.

I mentioned the reporter on CNBC that Howard had also tried to silence because he didn't like what she was reporting, and Howard bringing 9/11 into the conversation for no reason.

John Mainelli is not a news reporter. He writes freelance radio pieces. He cited his sources, and did not write anything untrue, despite what anyone says. If he had, Stern would be the first to sue him.

If you think Stern not being a reporter gives him license to lie without impunity, you are further gone than I imagined. He's a well known media figure, and just as responsible for what he says.

Calling me stupid because I don't agree with your opinion is a little childish, even for you.

I would rather hear O&A in the afternoon after stern then Bubba and definitely Farrel. That cat's show is the worst.

suzy, i'm sorry for putting you as the o/a part.
when i hear freedom of speach only him i took it as another jab at howard of the gag order on o/a.

i dont beleave i called you stupid that must of been someone else.

as for the woman on cnbc she did make some comments to howard that he got sinitive about . thats him he does that.
antone that ever reads the op-ed pieces in any newspaper at the end an op-ed stoy it would read so an so is theb lah blah blah blah.
the post should of put that as a disclamer and if JM is pissed that he was let go then dont say that the other job pays better.

http://media.putfile.com/John-Mainelli-DID-Lie

Uh, Anthony, he did lie. O&A are lying to their audience more and more these days.

OK, he reported a rumor. That's not a lie. Howard has only 1 million listeners? Well, that's not really a lie either because nobody really knows the number. Lycos web searches have gone down? True, but who searches on Lycos? His own website hits have gone down? That's spin. Of course it has gone down since Jan. 2006 with all the hype, but it has actually gone up 7% from September of '05. Nice spinning. Now with Artie's movie tanking and celebrity guests dying down? Pure lies. What was his motive for spinning and lying? He is a radio consultant for terrestrial radio! There's conflict of interest there! He deserved to be fired.

How is it tanking when the movie made over $300,000 over the weekend for a limited released in 3 cities? That's a lot better than most independent films. And Beer League did make more money per theater then a lot of other hollywood movies, such as The Covenant, Invincible, Hollywoodland, and Crank. Check it out for yourselves. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2006&wknd=37&p=.htm

Celebrity guests drying up? What about Jon Stewart, Roger Ebert, Donald Trump, Robert Duvall, Luke Wilson, Ozzy Osbourne, Paul Giamatti, Cuba Gooding Jr., M. Night Shyamalan, Johnny Knoxville and Aerosmith coming in next week. John Mainelli is a lying ass that deserved to be fired.

Oh, and Opie, it's balancing out? Last quarter Sirius beat XM in subscribers, with over a 200,000 subscriber difference. Stop lying to your audience already!

http://images.forbes.com/media/2006/09/06/satradio.jpg

This was just last month!
http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/analysis-august-satellite-radio-retail-sales-data-from-npd.html

Sirius August 2006 Retail Share: 55%
XM August 2006 Retail Share: 45%

Oh, and one more thing about the "Cell Phone" comment.

http://media.putfile.com/Sirius-Growing-Faster-than-Cell-Phones-at-this-point-in-their-History

I understand that idiots like the O&A Army took it as if he meant that Sirius is growing faster than cell phones today, but what do you expect from the O&A Army? O&A spinned this and you drank the koolaid. Sirius is growing Faster than Cell Phones did at this point in their history. Idiots.

LOL what does taking friday off have to do with it, and why does O&A care? Why do fans of O&A care so much about howards work week...?

Hell if they cared so much they would work 6-4 like every other american has to put in 8+ hours a day.

No offense but doing a watered down,sensored show for 3 of the hours they are on is much more of a let down to fans then taking friday off could ever be.

>>>>>>No offense but doing a watered down,(C)ensored show for 3 of the hours they are on is much more of a let down to fans then taking friday off could ever be.

I agree. That's 3 hours of terrestrial radio where a third of each hour is commercials. Its really no comparison.

Douchebag #1 said: "Well...considering his actual listeners at this point... think what O and A would do for him. If O and A were on XM and Stern still on Sirius, the boys could say to check out Stern's show and stern would increase his listeners..."

HAHA!! They can't even make a dent in XM's own subcribers, how do you think they're gonna do anything for SIRIUS? lol!

Douchebag #2 wrote:
"John Mainelli is not a news reporter. He writes freelance radio pieces. He cited his sources, and did not write anything untrue"

Bitch, Mainelli ran with an untrue piece and added to the story. If you look at Howard's webhits compared to last year, same month, Howard is actually up a percentage. Second, saying Howard is coming back to terrestrial radio is a big hit to Sirius. A buddy asked me if it were true cuz he was gonna get SIRIUS for X-mas from his wife! That is one example for ya.
John M. isn't an idiot and should know better. He never disclosed the conflict of interest and he got what he totally deserved.
Ok. my enchiladas are now here.

I can't believe people don't see through stern's lies.. He can't bitch about the fcc anyomore, religious right, and so on. So, he is going after reporters, and talking about a conspiracy?? He has offically lost it. Can't howie just ENJOY the money, work on the show, and block out o&a ALL TOGETHER. Don't think about them, don't talk about regular radio anymore. MOVE ON. Wait... there would be no fight? wait? there would be no press? Howard think of a creative way to get back into the press, try using entertainment. Cut the act with the stupid sex machine, and get back to the funny.. Work on new bits, and interact with your fan base. I can't listen to another interview with, "so, who you banging now" or "what do i know" I try to give howard a chance, but I have to side with opie and anthony. Its just, better radio. Don't get me wrong, I still love the old stuff, and I think howard should take a look at his past, and maybe try to become creative again!!

SuzyS said:

"John Mainelli is not a news reporter."

Wrong! Mainelli wrote a column for the New York Post, which despite its being something of a rag, most certainly IS a newspaper.

"He writes freelance radio pieces."

Meaningless. His column was in a newspaper regularly and because of that, he is held to the same standards of journalism as anything else in the paper.

"He cited his sources, and did not write anything untrue, despite what anyone says."

Oh, really? So, Stern IS moving his show to terrestrial radio, despite the denials of that from both Stern and Sirius? You know this for a fact? If so, YOU should be writing a column for a major newspaper RIGHT NOW, citing YOUR sources for your claims.

"If he had, Stern would be the first to sue him."

How do you know that Stern ISN'T planning on suing Mainelli and the New York Post? Actually, he probably isn't because, as you should know, it can take YEARS before a slander suit reaches a courtroom, especially in New York's crowded legal system.

As for the notion that "all good publicity is good publicity," try telling that to Tom Cruise right about now.

DodgerBlues wrote:
"HAHA!! They can't even make a dent in XM's own subcribers, how do you think they're gonna do anything for SIRIUS? lol!"

Hey idiot...Every day on their free fm show.... they promote the xm show. People are signing up everyday just to hear them. They would have done the same for howie..

I'm sure tons of people are signing up to XM now to pay for a show they get for free.

What about all the other channels, 2-3 hours of XM exclusive show, The awesome radios XM has? Are you forgetting about that or are you just stupid??

"Free FM blows. Go fuck yourselves Infinity Broadcasting . . . . Free means
that it sucks" - OA (beginning of 10/31/05 show)

WOW, LOOK AT THE QUOTE I FOUND

just wait.. Just wait till hoo hoo comes back to regular radio, what will the stern fans say?

None of you are even seeing the larger picture.
Manelli needs to be investigated by the SEC, and he probably will be. Not only was it unethical, it was borderline criminal. Stock manipulation, anyone? Martha Stuart goes to jail for under-selling. What this Jackhole did is 10 times worse.m C'mon!?!

I love Money....

Tom C please post the audio of that quote.

Irresponsable headline there Ryan.

LolerSkates

"Free FM blows. Go fuck yourselves Infinity Broadcasting . . . . Free means
that it sucks" - OA (beginning of 10/31/05 show)

well baba booey to mainelli. think next time before you flat out lie you fruit!!!!!!!!!!! O&A sucks!

"Manelli needs to be investigated by the SEC, and he probably will be."

How would this be a SEC violation? There is no connection to the stock price and a tiny article in the NY Post. If he needs to be investigated then stern should be as well for saying that over 5 million people had signed up since he announced when they only had 3.5 mil customers. or when he said that 6000 people a day are signing up to hear his show. or when he said that xm was losing subscribers faster than they are gaining them. etc, etc, etc.

The SEC has better things to do. But thats right, they are probably "out to get stern" too.

open your eyes, its not that big a deal to the rest of the world.

Cranky, did you even read the article that John Mainelli wrote, or were you just told about it?

>>>"John Mainelli is not a news reporter."
Wrong! Mainelli wrote a column for the New York Post, which despite its being something of a rag, most certainly IS a newspaper.
"He writes freelance radio pieces."
Meaningless. His column was in a newspaper regularly and because of that, he is held to the same standards of journalism as anything else in the paper.>>>>>

So by this same line of reasoning, advice columns, such as "Dear Abby", food critics, theatre and television reviewers are all news reporters? No, they are not. They are journalists, but they write opinion pieces. A food critic could hardly be objective, could he? Yet he still writes for a newspaper. Based on your logic, even the crossword puzzle would be news, so would real estate ads, and horoscopes, they're all in the newspaper, too.

>>>>"He cited his sources, and did not write anything untrue, despite what anyone says."

Oh, really? So, Stern IS moving his show to terrestrial radio, despite the denials of that from both Stern and Sirius? You know this for a fact? If so, YOU should be writing a column for a major newspaper RIGHT NOW, citing YOUR sources for your claims.>>>>

I said he quoted several sources, one being the trade publication Inside Radio, that had said this was a rapidly spreading RUMOR. He clearly stated it was a RUMOR. He went on to quote Stern himself who said on air that he had offers from three major terrestrial networks.

Did Maneilli say Stern was moving his show, or did he say it looked like he MIGHT be, because there were RUMORS circulating?

I'll answer that one for you - Mainelli said that it looked as if it might happen, based on the Inside Radio RUMOR, and quoted trade and additional publications, and went on to list some other possible reasons why he thought that might happen, also citing his sources.

Strange that Howard didn't go after the source of the orginal RUMOR in Inside Radio.

>>>>"If he had, Stern would be the first to sue him."

How do you know that Stern ISN'T planning on suing Mainelli and the New York Post? Actually, he probably isn't because, as you should know, it can take YEARS before a slander suit reaches a courtroom, especially in New York's crowded legal system.>>>>>

As you probably know, libel is the word for a lawsuit brought against someone wronged by written word, and if Howard was planning on filing one, he'd be public about it - certainly he'd share it with his fans, with whom he prides himself on being honest and close. What reason would have to hide it? And as you also probably know, it does not take years to file a lawsuit - it might take some time to come to trial, and far longer to settle, but filing is generally a relatively quick process. Even in "New York's crowded legal system".

Mainelli just reported a story, based on other reported stories, that he gathered in a cohesive manner to support one another.

Howard may not like what he said, but he's got every right to say it.

That's why Howard's got his own forum to say whatever he pleases in response. That same freedom that gives Howard the right to speak his mind, covers Mainelli as well. If Mainelli says something untrue, Howard has the entire legal system to protect him.

If Howard didn't like his article, why not address it on air? Why attempt to take away the man's livelihood so to control his freedom of speech?

From Howard? The First Amendment champion? That seems wrong beyond belief.

Cranky, did you even read the article that John Mainelli wrote, or were you just told about it?

>>>"John Mainelli is not a news reporter."
Wrong! Mainelli wrote a column for the New York Post, which despite its being something of a rag, most certainly IS a newspaper.
"He writes freelance radio pieces."
Meaningless. His column was in a newspaper regularly and because of that, he is held to the same standards of journalism as anything else in the paper.>>>>>

So by this same line of reasoning, advice columns, such as "Dear Abby", food critics, theatre and television reviewers are all news reporters? No, they are not. They are journalists, but they write opinion pieces. A food critic could hardly be objective, could he? Yet he still writes for a newspaper. Based on your logic, even the crossword puzzle would be news, so would real estate ads, and horoscopes, they're all in the newspaper, too.

>>>>"He cited his sources, and did not write anything untrue, despite what anyone says."

Oh, really? So, Stern IS moving his show to terrestrial radio, despite the denials of that from both Stern and Sirius? You know this for a fact? If so, YOU should be writing a column for a major newspaper RIGHT NOW, citing YOUR sources for your claims.>>>>

I said he quoted several sources, one being the trade publication Inside Radio, that had said this was a rapidly spreading RUMOR. He clearly stated it was a RUMOR. He went on to quote Stern himself who said on air that he had offers from three major terrestrial networks.

Did Maneilli say Stern was moving his show, or did he say it looked like he MIGHT be, because there were RUMORS circulating?

I'll answer that one for you - Mainelli said that it looked as if it might happen, based on the Inside Radio RUMOR, and quoted trade and additional publications, and went on to list some other possible reasons why he thought that might happen, also citing his sources.

Strange that Howard didn't go after the source of the orginal RUMOR in Inside Radio.

>>>>"If he had, Stern would be the first to sue him."

How do you know that Stern ISN'T planning on suing Mainelli and the New York Post? Actually, he probably isn't because, as you should know, it can take YEARS before a slander suit reaches a courtroom, especially in New York's crowded legal system.>>>>>

As you probably know, libel is the word for a lawsuit brought against someone wronged by written word, and if Howard was planning on filing one, he'd be public about it - certainly he'd share it with his fans, with whom he prides himself on being honest and close. What reason would have to hide it? And as you also probably know, it does not take years to file a lawsuit - it might take some time to come to trial, and far longer to settle, but filing is generally a relatively quick process. Even in "New York's crowded legal system".

Mainelli just reported a story, based on other reported stories, that he gathered in a cohesive manner to support one another.

Howard may not like what he said, but he's got every right to say it.

That's why Howard's got his own forum to say whatever he pleases in response. That same freedom that gives Howard the right to speak his mind, covers Mainelli as well. If Mainelli says something untrue, Howard has the entire legal system to protect him.

If Howard didn't like his article, why not address it on air? Why attempt to take away the man's livelihood so to control his freedom of speech?

From Howard? The First Amendment champion? That seems wrong beyond belief.

"If Howard didn't like his article, why not address it on air? Why attempt to take away the man's livelihood so to control his freedom of speech?

From Howard? The First Amendment champion? That seems wrong beyond belief.
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umm same can be said for this guy trying to hurt stern's "livelihood" in this story.

The freedom of the first amendement and freedom of the press does not allow you to LIE, Libel or have a total lack of ethics.

besides most of what mainelli said would be protected under this so called freedom since it would be hard to prove harm directly to stern.

would it be ok if CBS just decided to lie about another company in their news because they wanted their company to look better? This is why even before business analyst who work for say CNBC always says a disclaimer when they talk about their own company or a competitor in their business.

maybe you missed the point where he had a CONFLICT OF INTREST. if you try this in any other industry, govt or other jobs you would loose it, and be thrown in jail.

John Mainelli with his bias BS "news" reporting shot his mouth off about the wrong person and got bitch slapped by the King of all Media.

It's hilarious seeing all the Howard Stern haters blathering on and blaming Howard Stern for Mainelli leaving the NY Post.

Mainelli left because he was working as a paid consultant to the very radio stations he was covering in his reports. He also failed to notify the NY Post that he was being paid by the radio industry on the side.

It's the most obvious case of conflict of interest I've ever heard.

This is like a reporter covering baseball while being on the Yankees payroll. Of course he's going to slant his stories to favor the person/team paying his salary. He loses all credibility as a reporter.

It's amazing how the same people that say Howard is washed and has no influence anymore are ready to believe that he got someone fired from a job at a company he doesn't own or run! Which is it? Does he have clout and pull or is he irrelevant???

>>>>I said he quoted several sources, one being the trade publication Inside Radio

Inside radio, a trade publication owned by Clear Channel.

Nah, no conflict of interest there either. A terrestrial radio trade publication claiming, that due to secret sources, Howard is going back to commercial radio due to Sirius Satellites failure.

>>> Just wait.. Just wait till hoo hoo comes back to regular radio, what will the stern fans say?

He was on Corolla's show yesterday, HOLY SHIT! Manelli was telling the truth!!!!!

Mainelli is now program director for Opie and Anthony - no, John, you had no conflict of interest. You lying piece of garbage.