K-Rock General Manager and VP Tom Chiusano, arguably the most famous GM in the biz thanks to his many appearances on Stern's show as well as on O&A, is stepping down from his role at the station. This month marks exactly 23 years that Chiusano has led the day to day operations of the station, but he'll still remain on as a consultant until "at least June."
Meanwhile, starting today Opie & Anthony will no longer be heard on Washington DC's WJFK, adding to the list of major market stations that have dropped the dynamic duo.
The twist?
Rumors are swirling that Michael Hughes, the CBS Radio exec who runs WJFK - and the guy who just dumped O&A - could be on the list of candidates to replace Tom Chiusano.
"The twist?" no twist ..there living up to there name ZERO POINT ZERO!
FAIL!
how do 0.0 be given all of howards markets on a silver platter and zero competion and suck that bad?
awful just horrendously awful
its gonna be debella part 2 when they have to beg howard for a job when the merger goes through
get your popcorn its gonna be fun
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Howard who?
Opie and Anthony always win in the end.
Hoo Hoo, 0.0.
It's a good thing that I got out of terrestrial radio before this happened to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks to spineless, politically-correct, cencorship-obsessed dweebs like Michael Hughes, the shock jock medium is dead on terrestrial radio.
Kooky ol' Imus had no idea what he was starting when he poked fun at those double-ugly African-American amazons from Rutgers.
By the way, you type and/or write like the illiterate shut-in that you are. Maybe you should start listening to Bubba. He's more your speed.
Hoo Hoo
spin time...check out wackbag or fba for full spin mode on how this is a good thing for the "bbb oys"
howard who?witty...howard is the ass that your "b-b-b-b-oys will be forced to kiss!
Notice, once again fellow Orbitcast readers, that the first comment on this particular article is, by who? A Stern fan. It's as if they are not only addicted to listening to the old lady4 days a week, but any time an O & A story shows up here, they're always the very first to jump on it. and it really is no surprise what they say. SSDD. If you're a Stephen King fan, you know exactly what I mean.
"It's a good thing that I got out of terrestrial radio before this happened to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
hahah, i guess 20+ years at #1 and you still think stern was going to fail huh?
"but any time an O & A story shows up here, they're always the very first to jump on it"
because you told them they were wrong, and all along you said O&A could have easly beaten stern in the morning market
well guess you were wrong, they cannot even beat the morning market without stern there.
GG
"are you with us howard?" gregg hughes
"free FM fucking sucks...thats why its free" anthony cummia in october 2005.
Howard was never #1 for 20+ years anywhere. He wasn't even on mornings in Boston until the mid 90's, a time when even he said he was doing subpar radio. The bbb boys do a funny, edgy, unique show while hoo hoo just does the same old tired act. It was tired 10 years ago. Hoo Hoo, lets do the exact same show on satellite but curse so people think it's different. It will be fun to see Artie die though.
Pness, I thought that O&A would be off the air in months when they first took over for DLR? What happened? It's been 2 years now and their ratings in many of their markets (that's right, they are in a lot of other markets) are excellent. And if Howie thought he'd kick their ass in mornings on FM, why did he have Mel pay out their contracts for 2 years keeping them from going to a rival station to do mornings against him? Fact is O&A's ratings in NYC are great. JFK had them on from 10 -1 and cut the show to fit. Putting a morning show in midday's is setting it up for failure. If you don't understand the difference you're a boob.
Reply from Pness (or 0.0, whatever you want to call yourself today) "Spin, spin, spin, errr, hoo hoo, spin, spin, spin."
"Notice, once again fellow Orbitcast readers, that the first comment on this particular article is, by who? A Stern fan. It's as if they are not only addicted to listening to the old lady4 days a week, but any time an O & A story shows up here, they're always the very first to jump on it."
HEY DUMMY, Why do you think the story was put there by Ryan? Two low rated morning guys getting fired from local DC radio, or a GM leaving local NY radio has nothing to do with XM or Sirius. Must be here to start people posting.
"Fact is O&A's ratings in NYC are great"
you do have a point!
WFNY/WXRK Morning Ratings
Winter 2006 - Fall 2007
Winter '06 1.2 (David Lee Roth's Show)
Spring '06 1.9 (Includes one month of David Lee Roth - O&A premiered 4/26, 18th place)
Summer '06 2.2 (17th place)
Fall '06 1.6 (21st place)
Winter '07 1.8 (18th place)
Spring '07 2.5 (13th place)
Summer '07 2.1 (19th place)
Fall '07 2.3 (15th place)
Blazing the FM dial
O&A SUCK! Im a former die hard fan
Long live Ron and Fez
O&A and Ron and Fez kick ass and are the reason I have multi XM subs, not to mention NHL Home Ice. When the merger happens, if the boys or RnF don't make it, I'm canceling both my subs. Terrestrial radio is dead to me, especially after what they did to 94 WYSP in Philly...
"O&A and Ron and Fez kick ass and are the reason I have multi XM subs, not to mention NHL Home Ice. When the merger happens, if the boys or RnF don't make it, I'm canceling both my subs. Terrestrial radio is dead to me, especially after what they did to 94 WYSP in Philly..."
(waves goodbye)
youll be missed
I don't give a shit about ratings. That's something O&A and Stern fans lose sight of. More people listening to a show doesn't make it any better. I personally want them to be dropped from every FM station so that it can once again be XM-only.
Howard has a bigger number? Who gives a shit?
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=7x99ldc&s=1&hid=18&tag=fail
Hey, I'm kinda new here - can anyone explain why people care about a radio show they don't even listen to? I swear, I can't figure out all this pointless bickering.
Seems like every other thread boils down to a "MY jerkoff radio host is cooler than yours" crap-o-rama. You know who doesn't give a damn what you think? YOUR jerkoff radio host! Grow up, idiots.
"hoo hoo because we're wacky zany PESTS! thats what we do...we PESTER HOO HOO fans"
linger longer lil jimmy....i mean howard is irrelevent hoo hoo..who cares about ratings!hoo hoo
long live wacky morning zoo radio!
hoo hoo
hoo hoo
hoo hoo
"Opie and Anthony always win in the end."
oh yeah?Win what?
Not being a wise guy but honestly no stern vs O A crap really wondering whats going on for they to be dropped. Are they doing lousy in the books, no sponsors, do they cost too much $ or are they just not able to pull it off in multiple markets?
I know this may lead to more bickering but does anyone have an unbiased reason why?
Ah, good times, good times. And to Ba ba: no, nobody has an unbiased reason. Never have, never will. Just a bunch of what sounds like monkeys and 0.0's posted.
Whats next? XM will drop the ball by not advertising O&A on XM in Washington. Why? Because XM doesnt care about
1. O&A
2. Gaining possible subscribers
PFreak said:
>>>Fact is O&A's ratings in NYC are great. JFK had them on from 10 -1 and cut the show to fit. Putting a morning show in midday's is setting it up for failure. If you don't understand the difference you're a boob.
PFreak -- given what you write, you obviously work in radio and understand more of what's going on here than most participating. Most of which is noise...
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>>>Blazing the FM dial
So you obviously have access to the Persons 12+ AMDrive numbers for NYC... do you have access to the P18-34 numbers??? Is there a reason you didn't post those?
If you know anything about broadcast radio today, then you should know that P12+ is a beauty contest -- it is absolutely irrelevant from a sales success stand point. Broadcast radio is all about bringing in the advertising dollar... not winning the P12+ demo. Sales does NOT sell P12+... they sell the target demo for the station. K-Rock's target demo in NYC is P18-34... a demo that O&A are doing very well in, in NYC and various other markets.
If you're successful in your target demo and your sales department can sell your numbers -- then all the other bullshit (especially the BS posted on annonymous message boards) becomes irrelevant.
Homer has a point. If you dont have the 18-34 numbers you should really shut the fuck up.
Are O&A still the best show in that demo that airs on FM? Sure i guess. But it still pales in comparison of what the show was before they tried to go back to fm.
We all know O&A are done in March. So that only gives you 2 months to poke fun at them :(
Ron and Fez Noon to Three
You know the reality is that this is both good and bad. Tom never was a fan of O&A, he put on a good act but he really was a Howard guy. So it's good for O&A that he is gone, however JFK,,,,, BAD! The pests can spin this however they would like. Reality is they are losing stations and the ratings are far from solid. It's not 0.0 as the Stern fans like to say, but it's not good. I used to download O&A and listen to them while I was playing games, I would listen to Howard in the car or stream him at work. I cant listen to O&A anymore. The show is just to much like a moring zoo frat house for me, and they mention Howard or talk about Howard everyday. Get over it. And yes a HOO,,HOO refreance counts as me saying they mention Howard. I cant take it anymore, get over Howard, clear out the studio, stay on current events, and get over your self. Stop trying to fource this feeling of some sort of bond with the listerner. You try to hard, Howard never tryed so hard to make this connection with his listener, it never seemed forced with Howard. It seems very forced with O&A. Howard's show has changed, it is stll good. O&A have changed, the show is a morning zoo. The best radio,,,,,,, Ron and Fez, great show. If the merger is a no go, I'm getting XM just for R&F. Their show is smart, not forced, and they never spend half the show bashing other jocks.
heard Opie and Andy's cd from a buddy of mine and it was pretty good but they have never been on the air where i live. I have listened to howard and watched his e show before sirius, haven't hear of ron and fez either but that doesn't mean all are talented. I will say this maybe it's howard doing a great job of marketing but the guy has had the most amazing career as a DJ in the history of radio (regular or satelite) i think the key is howard is howard, he doesn't try to be anyone else. I have never played chess or watched american idol or the dance show w/ celebrities but he makes it hilarious and i hate to admit it interesting to me.
other radio shows need to find their niche and not try to follow howard or anyone else's lead.
Isn't Bubba going to Terrestrial? Just wondering.
Anyway, as I always say, I don't need a Hoaward fan's permission to listen to O&A and Stern Fans don't need my permission to listen to Howard, so I am not sure why people feel like they are so important.
If Howard is so great, so powerful, so untouchable, why do yu care about a show that you claim doesn't matter?
Just wondering
THIS is why I rarely read the comment section of Orbitcast anymore. Midnless crap and most bring nothing to the table
I do not listen to Howard or them. O&A have done things that should have finished them long ago.
Making a Wife think her Husband is dead is is about as bad as bad can be and that alone should have been the end of them.
The most sad part is once O&A are totally gone, there will be no one to poke a stick at.
" I know I've threatened to leave you twice, but I can't quit you, Orbitcast comment section." - The Squeaky Wheel
"and they mention Howard or talk about Howard everyday"
dont know how much you listen to them, but i listen to them everyday at work, and rarely do they mention Howard anymore and when they do, they only bring him up for a minute...
its been a while since i have heard them go on a howard rant
"its been a while since i have heard them go on a howard rant"
coincidence or perhaps they are pulling there heads out of there hack radio ass's and realizing that they failed on terrestrial and need the kings approval when the merger goes through
oh nevermind,pests always win in the end!!! correct?
still trying to figure out what they "Win"
"It's been 2 years now and their ratings in many of their markets (that's right, they are in a lot of other markets) are excellent"
please Pfreak show me where "excellent" is....phil? oops...NY? ooops....
Winter '06 1.2 (David Lee Roth's Show)
Spring '06 1.9 (Includes one month of David Lee Roth - O&A premiered 4/26, 18th place)
Summer '06 2.2 (17th place)
Fall '06 1.6 (21st place)
Winter '07 1.8 (18th place)
Spring '07 2.5 (13th place)
Summer '07 2.1 (19th place)
Fall '07 2.3 (15th place)
as for 1st place in NY
minus the news station and once and a while the spanish station...stern was #1 for 20 years
That is the difference. Howard does not ever go on a rant about them. He really does not care. O and A are the ones that want the approval and that is obvious. Drew hit it right on the head!!!! They are trying to get Howard's attention and not doing their own show. Stop trying to be like Howard, because you cannot. Howard got to be where he is by being himself and that is what sells the show. It is Howard's take on things is what really makes the show interesting. There maybe a stripper or porn star in the studio and that alone is not funny or entertaining, but it is what Howard turns that stripper or porn star into. He makes it interesting. then the next day he can turn around and interview Alec Baldwin and make that interesting. That is what make Howard's show very unique.
O&A may be off WJFK, but The Hideout is Still on WJFK Saturday Nights 6pm-9pm
And they have a great show. They used to be on after Ron and Fez when RnF used to be on WJFK and they are still good radio friends now. They have even been on XM 202 a couple times.
Howard goes on constant rants about O&A always saying "I don't care". Of course he cares otherwise he'd never bring them up, period.
And Pness, #1 in their demo in NYC. Sorry, I could give a fuck how many women ages 45 - 75 are listening.
once the merger goes thru therre gone and O&A will rule.
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"Howard goes on constant rants about O&A always saying "I don't care". Of course he cares otherwise he'd never bring them up, period."
Howard may bring up terrestrial, but NEVER brings up O&A. They aren't even an afterthought to him. Be serious. Stop bullshitting.
Mr. Blutarsky, ZERO POINT ZERO
ROFL!
Howard VS. O&A. O&A VS Howard... You know what? I don't give a freak! Stop fighting over who is the better shock jock and get a freakin' life, will ya! You people are anoying!! Stop fighting, shut up, and let's talk about what's really going on in satellite radio.
--The Radio Kid
"guilty of being boring"
truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth
and this was 6 months ago..seems dead on accurate to me
http://media.putfile.com/Howard-Stern-anti-OnA-rant
LOL at the person defending 0.0's rating by saying 'they are good in the 18 - 34 demo and that's what's important'.
Right......LOL
their numbers are Soooo good in that important demo that stations are dropping them left and right.
BWwwahahhhhahahahaaaa
delusional losers
If they had good ratings in that demo and that was the most important thing, they would be gaining stations, not losing them.
Oh how I enjoy watching these hacks fail repeatedly. Soon they will be off all FM stations. Then hopefully at the merge, Mel will axe them.
Then you can listen to a podcast.
Haahahahhahhahaahhaha
But it is oh so fun to watch all this mindless banter. Didnt this start out as an article about Tom C. ? lol
Anyone know why the stocks went up almost 10% in the last hour of the day??? Can anyone smell a merger coming tomorrow??
"Anyone know why the stocks went up almost 10% in the last hour of the day??? Can anyone smell a merger coming tomorrow??"
stocks go up and 0.0 going to shit...you may be onto something...ryan,get digging on this..learn how to work kid
Godspeed, Tom.
The reason why Howard was #1 and continues to be #1 is simple.
People are fucking idiots.
American Idol is #1, too. Think about that.
90% of all radio, just as 90% of EVERYTHING, is bad. Utterly and completely worthless and unlistenable. Howard says what people want to hear for money, whether he believes it or not...just as a prositute spreads her legs for money, whether she likes the john or not.
A whore is a whore.
Ratings aren't everythng, and money is not everything.
When Howard Stern dies, the only thing he'll leave behind is a legacy of fart jokes and immature phone pranks. Nothing else. No humor, no sincerity, and no love of his craft. Hopefully he's the last of his kind, the stuck-in-the-80s shock jock dinosaur.
I won't miss him, or his kind. He causes nothing but shame to those of us who truly love radio.
Hey "Isnt That Right Fred"!!! Didn't you hear the segment with Jeff the vomit guy??
Tom Chiusano, good luck bro...
take a bow.easily the most mind numbing downs syndrome post of the day...
"the reason why Howard was #1 and continues to be #1 is simple.
People are fucking idiots.
American Idol is #1, too. Think about that.
90% of all radio, just as 90% of EVERYTHING, is bad. Utterly and completely worthless and unlistenable. Howard says what people want to hear for money, whether he believes it or not...just as a prositute spreads her legs for money, whether she likes the john or not.
A whore is a whore.
Ratings aren't everythng, and money is not everything.
When Howard Stern dies, the only thing he'll leave behind is a legacy of fart jokes and immature phone pranks. Nothing else. No humor, no sincerity, and no love of his craft. Hopefully he's the last of his kind, the stuck-in-the-80s shock jock dinosaur.
I won't miss him, or his kind. He causes nothing but shame to those of us who truly love radio."
Posted by: Isnt That Right Fred | January 21, 2008 8:21 P
"When Howard Stern dies, the only thing he'll leave behind is a legacy of fart jokes and immature phone pranks. Nothing else. No humor, no sincerity, and no love of his craft. Hopefully he's the last of his kind, the stuck-in-the-80s shock jock dinosaur."
Do you honestly believe that?
How will O&A be remembered? Nevermind, seems they're already being forgotten.
WXRK was among the nation’s top billing stations in the days when Mr. Stern hosted its No. 1 rated morning show. In the shock jock’s last year on terrestrial radio, the station had revenue of $51 million, according to BIA Financial Network.
In 2006, K-Rock flipped to all-talk WFNY, or Free FM, dropping the alternative rock format that had filled the non-Howard parts of the day. Ratings plunged, and revenue that year fell 63% to about $19 million.
The stagnant radio business hasn’t helped. Following a 7% dip in revenue at CBS Radio in 2006, billing have continued to drop. For the third quarter of 2007, revenue was down 12%, to $446 million, though part of that slide was due to the sale of stations in smaller markets.
Last May, following Mr. Mason’s arrival, WXRK returned to its old call letters and rock format, though without Mr. Stern to buoy mornings, its ranking has not improved. In Arbitron’s fall survey it was 22nd among all listeners, with a 1.5 share.
.....Cannot argue these numbers. It's over Johnny!
Stern fans, just please shut your collective faces about this matter - we all know Howard would be going through the same crap as O&A if he had remained in terrestrial.
Not really Pete. Howard never failed like this.
These pests pile on every Howard article regardless of the content, so don't cry when your 2 wacky morning duo get a taste of the same by Stern fans.
I don't think there is a 'shock-jock" show around that could possibly succeed under CBS's censorship and rule-set these days. The things they dump out on are so goddamn rediculous that even the FCC wouldn't complain. CBS has no one to blame but themselves. Stern had it 10x easier despite his constant whining.
Remember everyone. Words Hurt!
ugh....
I don't think there is a 'shock-jock" show around that could possibly succeed under CBS's censorship and rule-set these days. The things they dump out on are so goddamn rediculous that even the FCC wouldn't complain. CBS has no one to blame but themselves. Stern had it 10x easier despite his constant whining.
Remember everyone. Words Hurt!
ugh....
"And Pness, #1 in their demo in NYC. Sorry, I could give a fuck how many women ages 45 - 75 are listening."
cause we know you are so good at the truth how about a link to those sub numbers please
"we all know Howard would be going through the same crap as O&A if he had remained in terrestrial."
LOL yes because this year would have been different then the 10-15+ prior years he was on in ny
whats funny is how many messages a story about Xm or Siri as an invesment get as compaed to opie and anthony or howard stern. It tells you a little about our population.. probably why more people vote for american idol then our president..very telling..
Then why do you post a comment about them? Your actions prove you feel they are worth your time.
ok, let me set the record straight. I have to come clean and say that I have been a huge opie and anthony fan for almost two years.
please don't take offense by my screen name either. It merely refers to my t-cell count.
lets be honest,do you blame Tom for jumping off the zero point zero sinking Titantic?
smart move tom,smart move
Ahahahaha. The only reason anybody heard that show was because they had a 7 million drip from Howard.
"are you with us howard?" gregg hughes
Seriously. After making fun of his divorse, fiance, and children.
I listened to O&A occasionally for about one year, only because my new car has XM instead of Sirius. And I'm still waiting for Jim Norton to say something funny. Saying c**t ten more times isn't funnier than five times. Guy's got a serious problem with women. His idea of a joke:
"My girlfriend said we're out of toilet paper. I told her to stand on her head in the shower."
That's why no one listens.
And I would love to meet this guy's girlfriend.
If my XM doesn't pick up Howard after the merger, I'm switching back to Sirius.
The number of people who mindlessly post on this board without thinking out their argument is astonishing. Case in point – this moron Finko who asked for sub numbers for O&A’s target NYC terrestrial demo. Duh. Do you even read/think before you post or are you so blinded by your ignorance that so long as you are barking up Howard’s tree you must be correct. Smarmy douche.
I also enjoy the sweeping generalizations such as the idiot who said that O&A “talk about Howard every day.” That is simply a blatant uninformed lie. Besides the occasional “hoo hoo” it has been months since O&A engaged in any serious dirt-slinging as far as Howard is concerned.
Let’s face it. In the world of talk radio, there are two leaders – Howard Stern and O&A. Stern’s advantage is that he learned years ago what O&A are finding out now – that there is little room for the “shock jock” brand of radio in a world of increasingly tighter FCC and in-house regulations. Stern fans can sing Howard’s praises all they want, but the fact of the matter is, Howard couldn’t handle that pressure any more. He said it himself when he signed the Sirius deal.
O&A are now attempting to do what Howard could no longer handle – making an edgy show work on terrestrial radio. It’s funny how these out-of-target demo ratings are being used to spin things against O&A. Try being honest with yourselves for once. O&A are #1 in their demographic in New York City. Plain and simple. Beyond that, they are successful WITHIN THEIR DEMO in several other markets.
It’s difficult for any radio show to overcome the ratings of a “local flavor” show such as Preston and Steve, especially when the station airing your show could care less if you sink or swim. So the fact that they were dropped in D.C. but retain solid ratings in several other markets does not mean that this show is a failure or that they are a sinking ship. It’s common sense – the more markets you have, the more likely it is that you won’t work out. It’s easy for fans of a radio show that is, more or less, in one “market” to knock O&A. Just the fact that they are on satellite AND terrestrial at all is a success that Howard can’t claim.
The fact of the matter is, if Howard was producing the show he used to during “the glory days” in this atmosphere of political correctness and empowered special interest groups, he would never had been as successful as he WAS. O&A are simply figuring out how to make it work while overcoming the popularity of local one-market shows. The fact that they have the markets that they do, plus the #1 demo in NYC, plus the satellite deal is nothing short of a success.
". O&A are #1 in their demographic in New York City. Plain and simple. Beyond that, they are successful WITHIN THEIR DEMO in several other markets."
Right.....that's why stations are dropping them left and right. They hate keeping people around who are number #1 in their demo and successful in their demo. Stations absolutely hate the ad revenue they receive when jocks are successful in their demo.
I love the delusion of 0.0's fans. The true mind of losers at work. Trying desperately to convince themselves of anything but the truth because the truth is too painful.
The truth is, 0.0 are not funny or popular and that's why they can't get ratings, it's not because of the current state of radio. Other local jocks are getting higher ratings then them, so that blows that argument out of the water.
They have a handful of rabid internet fans with XM radio. They bought into 0.0's BIG TALK that they were going to be number one and all their fans were on the ground floor of what was to become something special. Now it is absolutely hilarious to see their fans scramble to make excuses, so they can make this right in their own heads. I love.
0.0
>> The truth is, 0.0 are not funny or popular and that's why they can't get ratings, it's not because of the current state of radio. >>
Your opinion, which you're entitled to.
“Right.....that's why stations are dropping them left and right. They hate keeping people around who are number #1 in their demo and successful in their demo. Stations absolutely hate the ad revenue they receive when jocks are successful in their demo.”
Hey, dummy. They haven’t been dropped in NYC – where they are #1. And they haven’t been dropped in the markets in which they are showing solid ratings (i.e. the “successful” markets). Do you have difficulty comprehending rather simple concepts Anonymous Coward? Obviously the markets showing low ratings for O&A aren’t going to keep them – why would JFK keep a show that is #1 in NYC? I certainly never claimed that this was the case.
Thank you for the vague reference to stations dropping O&A “left and right.” You really are uninformed. I love that fans of a man who’s best days were the mid-’80s have the nerve to call anyone a loser. Perhaps you should not speak.
I also love that you recycled my point about local jocks scoring higher ratings but ignored the logic behind it so that you could spin it towards your ignorant rantings. I’d love to hear one intelligent argument from one of these pro-Howard, anti-O&A fans rather than this tired “0.0” drivel. “They ain’t funny” and “they’s stupid” are not valid arguments.
"They haven’t been dropped in NYC – where they are #1"
please enlighten us with your radio wisdom and provide a link that show 0.0 are # 1 in NYC
oh and obese bald guys w/ goatees living in mommys attic ages 30-45 is NOT a demo
ill be waiting mr wizrard of radio ratings.
you used PartyRock as a name, I guess that means you're not an anonymous coward
LOL @ PartyRock
he's in full denial.
it would be sad if it wasn't so funny.
and yes, please do provide those links that show them as #1 in their demo. HaHa
Oh, and the rumors are swirling. The same rumors that happened before they lost their other markets. It's just a matter of time before they are out of NY.
ZERO POINT ZERO
Ah, I just got it. All 23 of Opie & Anthony's fans happen to post regularly on this forum and for some reason have a HUGE inferiority complex when it comes to Howard Stern.
Howard Stern has been in the public eye for a long time now, so it stands to reason he'll have a heap more fans than O&A, since they were always a regional hit (my brother-in-law in NJ loves them, for instance). Howard had his TV show back when I was in high school. More people have heard his shtick for a longer period of time. It's just the way it goes.
And unless you are a dual sub, you can't hear both of them, anyway. So why the hell do you all care so much about what the show YOU CAN'T EVEN HEAR is doing?
Grow up, get girlfriends, get jobs, do something for a change.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SUCCESS AND FAILURE, AN OVERSIMPLIFICATION, BUT TRUE NONETHELESS:
Howard became #1 on most of the stations he was on and in most cases stayed that way for over a decade. He had to come from nothing and redefine what radio was in order to prove himself valuable enough to be syndicated. He generated 100's of millions of dollars in revenue for his company.
At the end of this, Sirius believed he could do the same for him. They gave him HALF A BILLION DOLLARS. They also offered another QUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLARS in stock if he hit subscriber numbers by a given date, which he did. That my friend, is SUCCESS.
O & A happened to get a job on the afternoons on the station Howard worked. It was the #1 station because of Howard. They reaped the benefit by getting a lot of Howard's listeners to tune into them. They were somewhat popular and had good ratings. Then they started trashing the man who was making the stations millions and millions of dollars. They quickly felll out of favor with Howard and the station. Then they did a stupid, not very well thought out radio bit, and got fired.
They had no where else to go, so they went to XM, cause XM would have them. Then they were handed a golden opportunity on a silver platter. The big dog moved from regular radio, and they were chosen to fill the void after his replacement David Lee Roth failed. Out of desperation, they were given a syndicated radio show without doing anything to prove they could gain or maintain a large audience.
Since that time they have lost several stations in big markets and now the rumors are that they will be out of NY soon too. That my friend is FAILURE.
you can use whatever excuses you need to in order to help you sleep at night, but the bottom line is, the fact of the matter is
Howard Succeeded
O&A Failed.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN
"They haven’t been dropped in NYC – where they are #1"
still waiting for that link
Oh, yes. I await here at your becking call 0.0. It’s a very simple process, see. There’s this organization (for lack of a better term) called Arbitron. They put out quarterly radio ratings reports called Arbitrends. They show O&A #1 in their demo of men 18-34. They can be found at www.arbitron.com. Look them up, stupid.
I’m not going to hand feed you losers. I’m sure you are all very big boys – if you can talk shit, you can certainly do a little research to back up the argument that YOU started. You claim that O&A are failing. In reality, they are #1 within their target demo in the #1 radio market in the country. The Arbitrends reflect that. Perhaps you should show me proof the the contrary.
YAWN. I’m waiting.
When the merger happens all you retards will be able to buy which ever channel you would like to, so Stern fans can keep paying for Stern All Day, All the Time, and O&A and Ron & Fez fans will buy 202 and listen to their favorite shows. Mel will not fire O&A just to please Howard Stern, he is a businessman that realizes a money maker when he sees one. Millions of listeners, whether on terrestrial or XM, tune in to listen to O&A and Ron & Fez everyday, and will certainly keep their subscription to the merged company in order to do so. It is business, period.
"Oh, yes. I await here at your becking call 0.0. It’s a very simple process, see. There’s this organization (for lack of a better term) called Arbitron. They put out quarterly radio ratings reports called Arbitrends. They show O&A #1 in their demo of men 18-34. They can be found at www.arbitron.com. Look them up, stupid."
In other words, you looked, but couldn't find the facts to back up your argument.
LOL
Nice try by attempting to put it on someone else to look and then claim they just can't find it.
Truly pathetic and sad
I will look for no such link.
If one exists, you will provide it.
If none exists, there will be no link.
I expect that there will be no link, will there? :)
LOL
When the merger happens all you retards will be able to buy which ever channel you would like to, so Stern fans can keep paying for Stern All Day, All the Time, and O&A and Ron & Fez fans will buy 202 and listen to their favorite shows. Mel will not fire O&A just to please Howard Stern, he is a businessman that realizes a money maker when he sees one. Millions of listeners, whether on terrestrial or XM, tune in to listen to O&A and Ron & Fez everyday, and will certainly keep their subscription to the merged company in order to do so. It is business, period.
damn you jilm ..you beat me the response....we all knew he couldnt provide a link
so per usual in 0.0 land...FAIL & Spin
Jilm – your points on Howard’s rise to fame are absolutely correct. Despite the fact that he is worth nowhere near 3/4 of a billion dollars.
I find it amusing how your rhetoric changes when you get around to O&A. That they “happened” to get a job on afternoons after Howard. Is it so hard for you to concede ANY points at all? You come out swinging right out of the gate. But I digress. Granted, the cozy spot following Howard helped. But you and all of your misinformed buddies are clear examples of how Howards fans believe that he is the be all and end all of radio. Don’t kid yourself in thinking that Howard fans became O&A fans and that is what gave them their success. I like “The Office,” but I don’t stick around to watch “ER.”
Don’t make Howard out to be this innocent bystander whose hand was bit while feeding O&A. It is documented fact (see: Howard appearance on Letterman several months back) that Howard deliberately censored Opie and Anthony and insisted certain aspects of their show was restricted during their run in afternoons. Whether he was scared of their growing popularity is anyone’s guess, but fans of the early O&A will recall they showed tons of respect for Howard. But when he took measures to hold them down, that’s when the mud slinging started.
Do you hear yourself when you talk? O&A “fell out of favor with Howard.” Oh, god forbid anyone fall out of favor with the great radio God! Why should they have kissed Howard’s feet? Not all of us are comfortable with being sheep.
I love your choice of words phrases like “no where else to go,” “handed” and “desperation.” You are kidding yourself if you think that a company is going to risk millions of dollars on an unproven radio show. Opie and Anthony were huge in Buffalo, Boston and in New York before they blew up their own careers. They went to XM as a extra pay channel – you had to pay extra on top of your sub fee to hear them. When they proved themselves on the pay channel and their popularity grew, they were moved to regular channel.
They were hired to CBS radio to replace Roth because they were a proven and bankable show. Don’t play this off as if O&A are a couple of schlubs who stumbled into the radio business and haven’t worked for years to be where they are. You claim the lost several big markets? I don’t think West Palm Beach is a big market. To lost half a dozen markets but maintain success in Buffalo, Providence, Las Vegas, Cleveland, Boston and San Fran PLUS millions on XM is hardly a failure.
Your unfounded “rumors” about O&A losing New York are just that. No one is whispering. No one is talking. People just assume that because K-Rock is changing formats that this means O&A are in danger. Truth is, no one would get rid of the #1 show with men 18-34.
It’s for this reason that I sleep just fine at night.
“I will look for no such link.”
Neither will I douche bag. And coincidentally, you have no evidence to prove contrary to what I say.
You have my evidence, fanboy - the Arbitron ratings. Don’t mask your refusal to face the truth with your refusal to type in a web address.
It just about figures that when you ask for I link, I provide it, and then you question it’s validity. Your link to proof is www.arbitron.com. The number are there, there is no simpler way to put it.
"Truth is, no one would get rid of the #1 show with men 18-34."
why so hard to back up your claim with a link????????
"You are kidding yourself if you think that a company is going to risk millions of dollars on an unproven radio show."
Oh no, they would never do that. Cough cough....david lee roth....cough Cough
LOL
"I don’t think West Palm Beach is a big market."
West palm beach wasn't a big market.....okay, but what about Philly.
and still no link PartyRock?
Till you back that up, we can't take anything you say seriously.
Back it up and you'll get some respect and maybe I can take what you say seriously.
Till you back it up, you are the one who is the sheep just spitting out nonsense.
Walk the walk, give us a link, or admit you can't find one!
It’s not hard. Link: www.arbitron.com
Those are the official ratings. If I gave you anything less you’d tell me it was a biased reporting. Therefore, I am linking you to the official Arbitron ratings that prove my point. I’m sorry if you find this difficult to deal with. I’m deeply sorry for your loss of credibility. You have my condolences.
"Neither will I douche bag. And coincidentally, you have no evidence to prove contrary to what I say."
Bwahhhhhhahahahaahahahahahahaha
That's cause there is nothing for me to prove!!!!
You made the false statement as fact and can't back it up.
If you could, there is no reason why you wouldn't because it would prove you right.
Thank you for showing yourself to be a fraud.
I do appreciate it.
:)
PartyRock
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Correction, jilm. They wouldn’t take that risk TWICE.
If you won’t accept my link that’s your problem. THE ratings in radio are Arbitron. I gave you a link to Arbitron ratings. You need no further proof than that. And I could give a shit about your respect. Today’s postings are little more than a welcomed distraction during work. I expect you have little to be distracted from other than rounds of Halo 3 with several 13-year-olds in China. Tomorrow you’ll still be wallowing in obscurity, and I won’t. But oh, please respect me.
PartyRock
everyones heard of www.arbitron.com
so wizard of ratings,please show us wxrk or cbs radio are #1 18-34 in the last ratings period(i believe it would be fall 07)in morning drive
up to the task????
Here you go PartyRock. I went and did some reasearch. The most recent numbers I could find were for the SUMMER 07 and they weren't even close to #1 in that demo.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2007/10/16/2007-10-16_ratings_bring_morning_glory_again_to_win.html
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2007/10/16/2007-10-16
_ratings_bring_morning_glory_again_to_win.html
18- TO 34-YEAR-OLDS: WHTZ (10.4), WQHT (8.2), WWPR (6.5), WSKQ (6.0), WCAA (4.4), WPAT-FM (4.3), WRKS (4.1), WBLS (4.0), WKTU (3.9), WXRK (3.5), WLTW (3.4), WQBU & WWFS (2.8), WAXQ (2.6), WPLK (2.0).
You
Lose :)
Who is the sheep now?!
i believe thats what you call OWNED!
truth=troll killers
10th place in their key demo PartyRock
LOL
They will be out of NY soon.
Hey 0.0!!
What do you think the chances are of us hearing back from PartyRock
LOL
not quite sure
he may be sleeping
"Truth is, no one would get rid of the #1 show with men 18-34.
It’s for this reason that I sleep just fine at night."
FAIL
Summer ratings are far different than the Fall Arbitrends. Look it up.
In more important news: Heath Ledger is dead.
Need a link to that?
yes we do,oh wise wizard of ratings
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i help therefore i rock or partyrock
http://ratings.radio-online.com/cgi-bin/$rol.exe/arb001
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