XM announces first quarter 2008 results; SAC increases as subs grow

Monday, May 12, 2008 at 8:49 AM
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XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc. today announced its earnings and financial results for the first-quarter of 2008.

XM ended the quarter with 9.33 million subscribers, an 18 percent increase, from the first quarter of last year. This growth was driven by a 49 percent year-over-year increase in OEM gross additions which totaled 802,000 - that's compared to 537,000 in first quarter of 2007.

XM added 1.034 million gross subscribers for the period (compared to 868,000 last year), and 303,000 net subscriber additions (compared to 285,000 last year).

Revenue for 1Q08 rose to $308 million, a nearly 17% increase over 1Q07 revenue of $264 million.

Adjusted operating loss was $30.7 million, compared to a loss of $27 million in first quarter 2007. The first quarter 2008 adjusted operating loss includes $3.5 million of merger related expenses, compared to $9.2 million in first quarter 2007.

XM's net loss for 1Q08 was $129 million, or 42 cents a share, compared to a year-ago net loss of $122 million, or 40 cents a share. Analysts were expecting a loss of 39 cents a share on revenue of $313 million, according to Thomson Reuters.

In first quarter 2008, XM's subscriber acquisition costs (SAC) increased to $73, compared to $65 in the same period last year. Cost per gross addition (CPGA) fell below $100 to $99 for the first time since 3Q06 and compares to $103 in first quarter 2007. Average revenue per subscriber (ARPU) fell to $10.04 from $10.15 in the year-ago quarter.

View full financials after the jump...



                       XM SATELLITE RADIO HOLDINGS INC.
                UNAUDITED CONSOLIDATED STATEMENT OF OPERATIONS

    (in thousands, except share and per           Three months ended March 31,
     share data)                                      2008              2007

    Revenue:
      Subscription                                 $275,725          $236,486
      Activation                                      5,144             4,654
      Merchandise                                     4,321             5,297
      Net ad sales                                    9,118             7,478
      Other                                          14,146            10,197
    Total revenue                                   308,454           264,112
    Operating expenses:
      Cost of revenue (excludes depreciation
       & amortization, shown below):
        Revenue share & royalties                    68,822            47,426
        Customer care & billing operations (1)       34,310            27,928
        Cost of merchandise                           8,551            18,277
        Ad sales (1)                                  4,703             3,385
        Satellite & terrestrial (1)                  13,181            13,882
        Broadcast & operations:
          Broadcast (1)                               6,960             6,544
          Operations (1)                             10,491             9,716
        Total broadcast & operations                 17,451            16,260
        Programming & content (1)                    51,562            43,952
      Total cost of revenue                         198,580           171,110
      Research & development (excludes
       depreciation & amortization, shown
       below) (1)                                    11,020             7,310
      General & administrative (excludes
       depreciation & amortization, shown
       below) (1)                                    30,729            34,185
      Marketing (excludes depreciation &
       amortization, shown below):
          Retention & support (1)                    11,797             9,756
          Subsidies & distribution                   71,524            43,602
          Advertising & marketing                    26,501            32,809
        Marketing                                   109,822            86,167
        Amortization of GM liability                  6,504             6,504
      Total marketing                               116,326            92,671
      Depreciation & amortization                    45,483            46,882
    Total operating expenses (1)                    402,138           352,158
    Operating loss                                  (93,684)          (88,046)
    Other income (expense):
      Interest income                                 1,675             3,544
      Interest expense                              (29,327)          (27,609)
      Loss from de-leveraging transactions                -            (2,965)
      Equity in net loss of affiliate                (4,177)           (5,425)
      Minority interest                              (3,238)           (1,697)
      Other income (expense)                           (187)              444
    Net loss before income taxes                   (128,938)         (121,754)
      Provision for deferred income taxes              (331)             (684)
    Net loss                                      $(129,269)        $(122,438)
    Net loss per common share - basic and
     diluted                                         $(0.42)           $(0.40)
    Weighted average shares used in
     computing net loss per common share
     - basic and diluted                        309,674,526       305,877,670
    Reconciliation of Net loss to Adjusted
     operating loss:
      Net loss as reported                        $(129,269)        $(122,438)
    Add back Net loss items excluded from
     Adjusted operating loss:
      Interest income                                (1,675)           (3,544)
      Interest expense                               29,327            27,609
      Provision for deferred income taxes               331               684
      Loss from de-leveraging transactions                -             2,965
      Equity in net loss of affiliate                 4,177             5,425
      Minority interest                               3,238             1,697
      Other (income) expense                            187              (444)
        Operating loss                              (93,684)          (88,046)
      Depreciation & amortization                    45,483            46,882
      Total share-based payment expense              17,504            14,131
    Adjusted operating loss (2)                    $(30,697)         $(27,033)



    Footnotes:
    (1) These captions include non-cash           Three months ended March 31,
        share-based payment expense as follows:       2008              2007
        (in thousands)

        Customer care & billing operations             $889              $440
        Ad sales                                        607               356
        Satellite & terrestrial                         642               520
        Broadcast                                       793               600
        Operations                                      470               378
        Programming & content                         2,543             2,166
        Research & development                        2,463             1,726
        General & administrative                      6,052             6,048
        Retention & support                           3,045             1,897
          Total share-based payment expense         $17,504           $14,131

    (2) Adjusted operating loss is net loss before interest income, interest
        expense, income taxes, depreciation and amortization, loss from
        de-leveraging transactions, loss from impairment of investments,
        equity in net loss of affiliate, minority interest, other income
        (expense) and share-based payment expense. This non-GAAP measure
        should be used in addition to, but not as a substitute for, the
        analysis provided in the statement of operations. We believe Adjusted
        operating loss is a useful measure of our operating performance and
        improves comparability between periods. Adjusted operating loss is a
        significant basis used by management to measure our success in
        acquiring, retaining and servicing subscribers because we believe this
        measure provides insight into our ability to grow revenues in a cost-
        effective manner. We believe Adjusted operating loss is a calculation
        used as a basis for investors, analysts and credit rating agencies to
        evaluate and compare the periodic and future operating performances
        and value of our company and similar companies in our industry.

        Because we have funded the build-out of our system through the raising
        and expenditure of large amounts of capital, our results of operations
        reflect significant charges for depreciation, amortization and
        interest expense. We believe Adjusted operating loss provides helpful
        information about the operating performance of our business apart from
        the expenses associated with our physical plant or capital structure.
        We believe it is appropriate to exclude depreciation, amortization and
        interest expense due to the variability of the timing of capital
        expenditures, estimated useful lives and fluctuation in interest
        rates. We exclude income taxes due to our tax losses and timing
        differences, so that certain periods will reflect a tax benefit, while
        others an expense, neither of which is reflective of our operating
        results. Because of the variety of equity awards used by companies,
        the varying methodologies for determining share-based payment expense
        and the subjective assumptions involved in those determinations, we
        believe excluding share-based payment expense enhances the ability of
        management and investors to compare our core operating results with
        those of similar companies in our industry.

        Equity in net loss of affiliate represents our share of losses in a
        non-US affiliate in a similar business and over which we exercise
        significant influence, but do not control. Management believes it is
        appropriate to exclude this loss when evaluating the performance of
        our own operations. Additionally, we exclude loss from de-leveraging
        transactions, loss from impairment of investments, minority interest
        and other income (expense) because these items represent activity
        outside of our core business operations and can distort period to
        period comparisons of operating performance.

        There are limitations associated with the use of Adjusted operating
        loss in evaluating our company compared with net loss, which reflects
        overall financial performance. Adjusted operating loss does not
        reflect the impact on our financial results of (i) interest income,
        (ii) interest expense, (iii) income taxes, (iv) depreciation and
        amortization, (v) loss from de-leveraging transactions, (vi) loss from
        impairment of investments, (vii) equity in net loss of affiliate,
        (viii) minority interest, (ix) other income (expense) and (x) share-
        based payment expense, which are included in the computation of net
        loss. Users that wish to compare and evaluate our company based on our
        net loss should refer to our Unaudited Consolidated Statements of
        Operations. Adjusted operating loss does not purport to represent
        operating loss or cash flow from operating activities, as those terms
        are defined under United States generally accepted accounting
        principles, and should not be considered as an alternative to those
        measurements as an indicator of our performance. In addition, our
        measure of Adjusted operating loss may not be comparable to similarly
        titled measures of other companies.



                       XM SATELLITE RADIO HOLDINGS INC.
                   SELECTED FINANCIAL AND OPERATING METRICS

                                                        As of
    (in thousands)                          March 31, 2008   December 31, 2007
    SELECTED BALANCE SHEET DATA

      Cash and cash equivalents                  $211,542          $156,686
      System under construction                   161,772           151,142
      Property and equipment, net                 677,509           710,370
      DARS license                                141,412           141,412
      Investments                                  33,259            36,981
      Total assets                              1,662,174         1,609,230
      Total subscriber deferred revenue           526,239           514,926
      Total deferred income                       133,802           134,803
      Long-term debt, net of current portion    1,666,819         1,480,639
      Total liabilities                         2,699,944         2,533,787
      Stockholders' deficit                    (1,097,978)         (984,303)



                                                  Three months ended March 31,
    SELECTED OPERATING METRICS                         2008          2007 (15)

      Subscriber Data (in thousands,
       except percentages):
        OEM Gross Subscriber Additions (1)              802               537
        Retail Gross Subscriber Additions (2) (12)      233               331
          Total Gross Subscriber Additions (12)       1,034               868

        OEM Net Subscriber Additions (3)                355               225
        Retail Net Subscriber Additions (4)             (51)               60
          Total Net Subscriber Additions                303               285

        Conversion Rate (5)                            53.3%             51.5%
        Monthly Churn Rate (6) (12)                    1.77%             1.78%

        OEM Subscribers                               3,869             2,853
        Retail Subscribers (13)                       4,480             4,422
        Subscribers in OEM Promotional Periods          836               565
        XM Activated Vehicles with Rental
         Car Companies                                   78                23
        Data Services Subscribers                        49                35
        Outsourced Commercial Subscribers (13)           18                16
          Total Ending Subscribers (7)                9,330             7,914


        Percentage of Ending Subscribers
         on Annual and Multi-Year Plans (12)           45.1%             44.0%
        Percentage of Ending Subscribers
         on Family Plans (12)                          23.5%             23.2%

      Revenue Data (monthly average):
        Subscription Revenue per Retail,
         OEM & Other Subscriber (8) (14)             $10.36            $10.34
        Subscription Revenue per Subscriber
         in OEM Promotional Periods                   $5.60             $6.39
        Subscription Revenue per XM Activated
         Vehicle with Rental Car Companies            $6.27             $7.51
        Subscription Revenue per
        Subscriber of Data Services                  $35.34            $33.72

        Average Monthly Subscription Revenue
         per Subscriber ("ARPU") (9) (14)            $10.04            $10.15
        Net Ad Sales Revenue per Subscriber           $0.33             $0.32
        Activation, Merchandise and Other
         Revenue per Subscriber (14)                  $0.86             $0.87
          Total Revenue per Subscriber               $11.23            $11.34

      Expense Data:
        Subscriber Acquisition Costs
         ("SAC") (10) (12)                              $73               $65
        Cost Per Gross Addition ("CPGA") (11) (12)      $99              $103

            (Certain totals may not add due to the effects of rounding)

    Footnotes:
    (1)  OEM gross subscriber additions are paying subscribers newly activated
         in the reporting period and include Subscribers in OEM promotional
         periods as well as XM activated vehicles with rental car companies.

    (2)  Retail gross subscriber additions are paying subscribers newly
         activated in the reporting period and include Data services
         subscribers and commercial subscribers for 2007 only.

    (3)  OEM net subscriber additions (OEM gross subscriber additions less
         disconnects) represent the total net incremental paying subscribers
         added during the period.

    (4)  Retail net subscriber additions (Retail gross subscriber additions
         less disconnects) represent the total net incremental paying
         subscribers added during the period, including net Outsourced
         commercial subscribers for 2008.

    (5)  We measure the success of these promotional programs included in our
         OEM promotional subscriber count based on the percentage of new
         promotional subscribers that elect to receive the XM service and
         convert to self-paying subscribers after the initial promotion
         period. We refer to this as the "conversion rate."

    (6)  Monthly churn rate for the quarter represents the weighted average
         Churn rate for each month in the quarter. Churn rate represents the
         average percentage of self-paying Retail, OEM & other subscribers
         that discontinued service during the month divided by the average of
         these beginning and ending subscribers for the month. Churn rate does
         not include OEM promotional period deactivations and deactivations
         resulting from the change-out of XM activated vehicles with rental
         car companies.

    (7)  Subscribers -- Subscribers are those who are receiving and have
         agreed to pay for our service, including those who are currently in
         promotional periods paid in part by vehicle manufacturers, XM
         activated radios in vehicles for which we have a contractual right to
         receive payment for the use of our service and commercial
         establishments that receive our service through our relationship with
         a third party vendor. We count radios individually as subscribers.
         Retail subscribers consist primarily of subscribers who purchased
         their radio at retail outlets, distributors, or through XM's direct
         sales efforts. OEM subscribers are self-paying subscribers whose XM
         radio was installed by an OEM and are not currently in OEM
         promotional programs. OEM promotional subscribers are subscribers who
         receive a fixed period of XM service where XM receives revenue from
         the OEM for the trial period following the initial purchase or lease
         of the vehicle. In situations where XM receives no revenue from the
         OEM during the trial period, the subscriber is not included in XM's
         subscriber count. At the time of sale, some vehicle owners receive a
         three month prepaid trial subscription. Promotional periods generally
         include the period of trial service plus 30 days to handle the
         receipt and processing of payments. The automated activation program
         provides activated XM radios on dealer lots for test drives but XM
         does not include these vehicles in its subscriber count. XM's OEM
         partners generally indicate the inclusion of three months of XM
         service on the window sticker of XM-enabled vehicles. XM,
         historically and including the 2006 model year, receives a negotiated
         rate for providing audio service to rental car companies. Beginning
         with the 2007 model year, XM entered into marketing arrangements
         which govern the rate which XM receives for providing audio service
         on certain rental fleet vehicles. Data services subscribers are those
         subscribers that are receiving services that include stand-alone XM
         WX Satellite Weather service, stand-alone XM Radio Online service and
         stand-alone NavTraffic service. Stand-alone XM WX Satellite Weather
         service packages range in price from $29.99 to $99.99 per month.
         Stand-alone XM Radio Online service is $7.99 per month. Stand-alone
         NavTraffic service is $9.95 per month. XM generally charges a range
         of $9.99 - $11.87 per month for its audio service for annual and
         multi-year plans and $6.99 per month for a family plan.

    (8)  Other subscribers include weather and other stand-alone service
         subscribers.

    (9)  Subscription revenue includes monthly subscription revenues for our
         satellite audio service and data services, net of any promotions or
         discounts.

    (10) SAC - Subscriber acquisition costs include Subsidies & distribution
         and the negative gross profit on merchandise revenue. Subscriber
         acquisition costs are divided by gross additions to calculate what we
         refer to as "SAC."

    (11) CPGA - CPGA costs include the amounts in SAC, as well as Advertising
         & marketing. These costs are divided by the gross additions for the
         period to calculate CPGA. CPGA costs do not include marketing staff
         (included in Retention & support) or the amortization of the GM
         guaranteed payments (included in Amortization of GM liability).

    (12) Outsourced commercial subscribers are excluded for 2008.

    (13) Approximately 16 thousand subscribers, previously reported as Retail
         subscribers, are presented as Outsourced commercial subscribers for
         2007 for comparability.

    (14) Beginning in 2008, revenue from Outsourced commercial subscribers,
         previously reported as Subscription revenue, is reported as Other
         revenue.

    (15) Except for as stated in footnote 13, no previously reported metrics
         have been adjusted to reflect the exclusion of Outsourced commercial
         subscribers.


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This just proves how bad Xm needs this merger. Sirius is positive cashflow, growing exponentially and all because of Howard coming aboard. CONTENT IS KING AND SIRIUS HAS IT. Xm is losing so much money they need Sirius to bail them out something fierce. Further proof that nobody is listening to 0.0 and the XM failboat is sinking fast.

These are horrible numbers by any measure whatsoever. The increase in subsidies to acquire subs is appalling. Why is this company continuing to pay people to be its friend?

Many have posted about the asinine decisions made by management - this is a key one that cannot help but jump right out at the reader. There is no effective execution plan on the part of this company except to drive the cost of radios to consumers to $0 (in thousands) or less. In doing so management has cheapened the value of the serivce and for proof of what happens when a company does that, take a look at the auto industry that has never - and will never - be able to stop the riduculous rebate games.

XM management should be ashamed of themselves for giving away the company's money and still coming up with results this poor.

Most metrics eroded. More subscribers but higher acquisition costs.

This horse is dying...SHOOT IT!

Why is the stock going up on these numbers.

If the FCC continues to dawdle, they will lose their opportunity to enact ala carte and price freezes. Keep it up Martin..... XMSR will be DOA pretty soon and you'll end up with a true monopoly.

FCC... trying to get everything may have you ending up with nothing. THEN see how much impact 11 AG's have.

Actually, the numbers aren't bad, and I suspect that is why the stock is holding steady.

The net loss increased by $7 Million over last year, yet that was in the face of a $20 Million increase in royalties. You would expect subsidies & distribution to increase because they are ramping substantially in the OEM space, and because XM (unlike SIRI) doesn't count these as subscribers until they actually BECOME subscribers (3 months later), they are effectively "prepaying" this expense. R&D is up 4M and there are merger-related costs of a few million.

That XM held its loss essentially stable while these other costs rose is a significant positive.

OTOH, both of these stocks are very sick and not the place one would want to have any money at this point.

god i love all these smart people, we really should just let them tell us how the merger is going to go, and how the stocks are going to change price. you guys rock!


ron and crazyfez noon to three xm 202

It's nice to see XMSR continuing in the Baby Huey Panero tradition.... as sign of his legacy.
Add subs, increase SAC and lose more money 12 months later.

A brilliant strategy to be taken over with.
Mel thanks you Hugh....you must be proud.

Yep Jon, that is a mystery. XM stock is 3-4 times higher than Sirius, which tells me Sirius has done some creative accounting on their P&L statements. Sirius is in debt far above and beyond XM. The whole merger ordeal has been a fiasco, negatively effecting both companies in subscriptions. If the merger decision had been made (either for or against) within a reasonable 90 day period, both companies would be in much better shape today!

Yep Jon, that is a mystery. XM stock is 3-4 times higher than Sirius, which tells me Sirius has done some creative accounting on their P&L statements. Sirius is in debt far above and beyond XM. The whole merger ordeal has been a fiasco, negatively effecting both companies in subscriptions. If the merger decision had been made (either for or against) within a reasonable 90 day period, both companies would be in much better shape today!
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XM Stock is not 3-4x higher, they have less shares. XM Stock (3.7B market cap) is actually worth less than Sirius (4B market cap), its called reading the fundamentals. You dont need a Wharton MBA to figure that and the rest of the comments in your spiel are all wrong.

Christ, its obvious all the bashing on these boards is done by people with dick knowledge about finance. I will concede that SIRI and XM are both Speculative plays, and as such should not be the hinge of ANYONES portfolio, but they both are great spec plays as they have enormous growth potential, buyout potential, and news which could move the stock heavily.

Now for the Anonymous idiot stock analysts on this board who went to Suffolk Community College (like Sal), get a clue before you run your mouth like a 13 year old. And sorry for insulting the 13 yr olds, most of the bashers are probably that age.

//Sirius has done some creative accounting on their P&L statements.//


They have empty car inventory as subscribers what else do you need to know.

I was hoping that XM would go from hemmoarging money, to simply gushing blood, but no such luck

RFN23

//....Christ, its obvious all the bashing on these boards is done by people with dick knowledge about finance......//

Yeah. It's obvious.

Well you know exactly how this thread was going to go -- based on the very first post in the comments... the anonymous coward who started things out by saying that Sirius has positive cashflow!?!? There are too many people who dont know how to read basic financials trying to give opinions on these boards... beware. Sirius has positive cashflow? Learn to read financials before making stupid statements like this. But that's what happens when you have Stern or O&A fans taking the opportunity to comment and bash the other company -- when they have no clue as to what they're talking about.

As for XM's numbers -- they were not as bad as I feared they could have been. The gains they are making by scaling back on retail marketing are being offset by the increase in SAC -- which is direct result of the more expensive OEM subscriber. The shift to concentrating on OEM subs is very expensive -- and that is where the increase in expenses are coming from.

The adjusted operating loss looks good to me, but there is still a lot of work to do. I do not expect Sirius' numbers to be much better, if at all.

Sirius will obviously be better. They have had the explosive growth in the last two years since Howard announced his move, and they have the best content on radio. Howard, NFL, and NASCAR. What more could most people want?

Say what you want XM zealots and both pests, Sirius has been owning Xm for the last couple years due to two men (Howard and then Mel) and nothing will change this quarter.

Well said Homer. It's amazing all these "anonymous cowards" come it and talk crap, but can't back any of it up. XM still has slightly better financials, even with the small rise in SAC. The revenue is higher and OEM's continue to roll.

SIRI shouldn't fare any better financially. So let's nip this XM vs SIRI crap in the bud. It's rather tiring.

....and we wonder why all the crap talkers are "anonymous". This goes for BOTH camps.

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signature: Zombies and Pests, give it a rest!

I love how the stern trolls who keep throwing howards name around. if that is the only thing that sirius has to offer me and my xm programming changes because of this merger then i will no longer subscribe to satellite radio..

To the AC who says that sirius has the best content and lists howard, nfl, nascar as the shining examples of content, i will say this:
Howard---> see my comment above
NFL---> would rather watch football on tv, and not listen on the radio
NASCAR---> i would imagine that listening to a NASCAR race on the radio would be a lot more boring that watching a NASCAR race on TV.

once again, if this is the superior content i can look forward to with a merged sirius and xm, then the future will not
if those are your best examples of superior content, then, i am perfectly content with my xm as it is

Again, too many people who don't understand financials make unfortunate attempts to say that "Sirius is better", and make further assumptions based on that. Your opinion of content has zero bearing on the financials.

Both companies have massive losses -- and have for years. The best way to compare the two is to take a look at the Adjusted Operating Loss of the companies to get a better feel for how the two are performing. Both companies do various accounting of expenses differently and have other extenuating cirumstances -- thus the adjusted operating loss is the perfect barometer of the basic perfomance of the companies and how they did against each other.

In 2007, XM's Adj OpLoss was $238 million -- versus Sirius' Adj OpLoss which was $327 million.

In 2006, XM's Adj OpLoss was $166 million -- versus Sirius' Adj OpLoss which was $513 million.


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Homer,
I would be interested to know if the adjusted operating cost includeds the depreciation of equipment or not.. I think not but have not had the time to review XM's Filing yet.

All this really means is that XM can't manage worth a shit.. big surprise!! they know how to bleed out money and spend like a drunken sailor on leave, but make money??

This is like arguing over who came in last and next-to-last in a 100-person race -

The problem with XM is that they're not showing any real signs of scaling - it seems like the OEM revenue share is blocking any path to profitability. You're just not getting any of the OEM revenue to trickle down to the bottom line.

Sirius is at least showing some signs of scaling, but they still need a lot more revenue to trickle down before they'll ever sniff a profit.

So what's my point? They both suck, and they'll continue to suck as separate companies. Not that a merger will magically bring them a profit out of thin air, but it'll at least give them a better chance to get there at some point.

I know Sirius will have their CC after hours today, but does anyone have any idea what time they will release their financials?

What a laugh you clown bring me. Arguing whether Sirius is better then XM.. Geez time will tell. Hell technologically XM is so far advanced it isn't funny. BTW what happened to the last satellite launch Sirius fans... hmmm anyone care to comment on that disaster.

Congratulations Mr. Parsons, Mr. Davis, Mr. Irvin -

Your stellar management styles and efforts have led to the first quarter of negative growth in a category. Well done, well done. Will this achievement warrant a celebratory dinner at one of DC's finest eating establishments or will you decide to go to the Indy 500, rent some suites at the best hotel in the city and get a box at the race to which you'll invite the heads of Circuit and Best Buy and other retailers. Perhaps at that meeting you can strategize with them on how best to shower them with more money and other goodies to lose, let's say 100,000 more after-market subs.

Maybe you can talk about the excellent execution at the next conference call.

How after this many years in business, and after "investing" so much into technology and infrastucture, you haven't been able to turn a profit of one lousy penny. That's ok. There's always next quarter.

If you were generals leading a war effort, you would all have been relieved of your respective commands. Too bad you have neither the decency nor the honor to do the right thing and resign - as failures.

Sirius fans = dumbest mother fuckers on this planet.

Part of the reason i will leave post merger.

Scott wrote:
//Sirius fans = dumbest mother fuckers on this planet.
//Part of the reason i will leave post merger.

Wow someone that pays for a XM because of the fans (not the content) is calling the Sirius fans stupid :D

I know nothing of satrad...I just bait and bash to get your response...pretty hilarious at times...this is good entertainment boys!

I love how everyone turns this into a Howard vs. O&A discussion. The truth is both companies absolutely blow at managing their money. After the merger they are going to continue pissing away money.

Without Howard Stern, Sirius would not be in business. All eggs are in one basket. If he gets hit by a car, it's all over. That's not a bad idea, by the way.

the fact that SAC is up y/y is simply reflective of the massive increase in GM subs as a percent of the total--GM makes money on these installs and XM loses for about 3 plus years

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